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Dec 27 2015, 11:52 PM |
It's The Lil Night Train, see here
No fx loop That's where that Laney Ironheart seems to score points, very versatile and switchable wattage, fx loop, reamp feature, direct out, etc http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/...t-studio-574874 It may be a bit of a one trick pony aimed more at metal and shed so it may be worth waiting to see if they do a Lionheart version Or this http://www.musicradar.com/reviews/guitars/...5-studio-626158 It would be nice if they did a 2U Rack version of the Lionheart L5 . The Ironheart has a Rack and a head version but the Rack version has more features. I'm not going to rush into it but I think this is the kind of thing for me This post has been edited by Phil66: Dec 28 2015, 11:16 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 28 2015, 10:26 AM |
Thanks Mertay,
Please see the edit in my previous post. Those recordings were the Vox with gain at 12 o clock and the Hotbird set how we left it I think I'm going to use the Vox as my main amp. It has much more clarity. It's not too good with the little Vox cab for me, it has a bit too much middle but pretty good with the black star. Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 28 2015, 05:16 PM |
Thanks Mertay,
I'll check it out later, there may have been too much sherry in the trifle , maybe I didn't press the switch on the Hotbird I'll do it again later on and also the full gain Vox only. Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 28 2015, 05:31 PM |
It is much more crisp sounding, less muddy, it rings out more. Side by side the Blackstar sounds as though there is a cushion in front of the speaker in comparison. The Vox is more "open". Sound is very difficult to explain,
I have fallen in love with THIS just for the retro looks, it makes me think of a VW camper van on its way to the beach I need to trade some gear. It's gorgeous -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 28 2015, 05:48 PM |
It is much more crisp sounding, less muddy, it rings out more. Side by side the Blackstar sounds as though there is a cushion in front of the speaker in comparison. The Vox is more "open". Sound is very difficult to explain, I have fallen in love with THIS just for the retro looks, it makes me think of a VW camper van on its way to the beach I need to trade some gear. It's gorgeous I think I understand, as the amounth of distortion increases the "openness" of an amp must also decrease cause with lots of distortion the high freq.s can really sound rough/hurt ears. Although very versatile, there is a side of the blackstar being on the metal side. But you should try getting a similar distortion on the vox too and then figure out which "school" of amps is really for you. That rack Laney for example, I would also expect it not to have much highs like the blackstar as its metal oriented. Listening to the laney L5, its not a very shreddy amp; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzxO2UXgwlk so I think these are good examples to understand as there are limitations to amps and we must be careful to choose what area of the sound spectrum we'll be using. |
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Dec 28 2015, 10:11 PM |
Hello Mertay,
OK sound files as requested, gain on Vox 12 o clock. On the recordings with full gain and no Hotbird the vol was at about 9 o clock. Same thing, chords on bridge then neck same PRS Ace guitar. https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-bright-with-hotbird https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-thick-with-hotbird https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-bright-full-gain https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/vox-thick-full-gain To be honest, with the Laney, I love all of the tones he gets in the review below, Paul Glover does some great honest reviews, there is a track he has recorded using it too. I like some metal, Sabbath, Pantera etc but listen and aspire more to playing stuff like SRV, Black Stone Cherry, Satch, Thunder, that kind of thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSCj4_CA_pc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DJMJzVyEQY Here is Paul Glovers review of the Ironheart, there's a big "Thank you" piece for the first 50 seconds but after that there is a section where he plays it clean, I think it is pretty sparkling, not much playing after that, he talks through the features. It sounds better than expected clean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSP7QUTbznA Here is a demo of the Lionheart by the crazy dudes at Andertons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv996M1S1hg Cheers This post has been edited by Phil66: Dec 28 2015, 10:20 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 28 2015, 11:46 PM |
Thank you so much Mertay,
I really appreciate everything and I'm really feeling bad that if I change my amp we have to start again. I am really enjoying this but I don't want to be a burden on you. Please please please tell me when you've had enough. I'm really taken with the Laney L5 Studio. For some classic Thunder check out https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=707733 -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 29 2015, 12:36 AM |
Lol the wife is not a problem at all I just want a single versatile amp that maybe needs the Hotbird to get more out of it
Cheers buddy -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 29 2015, 08:57 AM |
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Dec 29 2015, 12:19 PM |
So what did you make of the Ironheart and the L5 in the Paul Glover demo?
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Dec 29 2015, 06:26 PM |
Thanks Mertay,
Is funny how things change I've just read the first few posts in this discussion and I was saying I didn't need another amp and now I'm thinking of getting one. I will keep the Vox, it's a work of art and so cute I'll probably swap a 4x8 for a 1x12. I originally got the Hotbird to go in front of the GT-001 after you said about dynamics being better through an analogue pedal which they are, and now I'm looking at amps I was going to try the GT-001 in front of the amp with the Hotbird in front of the GT-001 but I have to us one of the speaker outs. If I get an amp with fx loop might think about swapping the GT-001 for an interface and maybe get some sort of effects unit for the loop but that's later on. Back to the amp, I'd like something that has a good tonal range and sparkly cleans, drive doesn't need to go beyond This really I don't think, and we always have the Hotbird It needs to sound good at around 90db so I'm more than open to suggestions. I'm going to put it into the gear forum just to get suggestions, I hope you don't think it's because I don't trust your judgement, is just to open it up to people who may not venture into this discussion I could do with a 3watt JVM4 The thing is, I'm not looking for one tone as I enter some of the collabs and the sounds required vary as do the takes for lessons for REC. Back to the Hotbird, I asked Valerio what the mid edge knob actually does, his answer was "+ 7db (6db/oct) from 300 to 2.5K Hz " which will mean more to you than me I haven't had that switched in for any of the tests yet Cheers buddy This post has been edited by Phil66: Dec 29 2015, 06:27 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 2 2016, 09:35 PM |
If anyone wants to follow the "sub-thread" about the amp, check it out HERE. Once we're sorted on the amp, and as long as Mertay is willing and able, we will be fine tuning recording issues with a mic, and maybe with the emulated out.
Let's hope Mertay hasn't pulled all of his hair out yet and is ok for this, I won't blame him at all if he says "Phil, I've had enough, I can't take it anymore aaaaaarrrrrrgggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh " Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Jan 7 2016, 02:13 PM |
1x12 vintage cab has arrived
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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