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My name is Jeff I am new to the site, just trying to find my way around!!
I have played guitar (and many other instruments) for many years, but always looking for new inspiration.
I found David Wallimann on YouTube and thought that he made a lot of sense so I joined the site.

I have started working on the modal pentatonics lessons and wanted to ask a question but I don't know how to post questions on the appropriate forum. It gives me an error. So I thought I would start here by introducing myself.
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Thank you Kristofer and Gabriel for the welcome.

My question was regarding the backing track used in David Wallimann's lessons for modal pentatonic exercises. I am working on the ionian to start with.
I would like to know what the chord changes are in the backing tracks? I think that it would help to link the sounds to the chords underneath, unless I have missed the point!
How do I get to the appropriate place in the forum to ask the question?
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Hi friend!

When asking stuff about practice and lessons, you can do it in different parts of the forum, but the best place would be to do it at the PRACTICE ROOM sub-forum: LINK HERE.

About your question, the backing track is based on A root but the chords change with the change of each modal pentatonic. Each chord used is the root chord of the mode that is being played. In order to learn the "root chord of each more I recommend you to explore this thread:

Sounds of the Ionian Mode

Sounds of the Dorian Mode

Sounds of the Phrygian Mode

Sounds of the Lydian Mode

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Sounds of the Aeolian Mode

Sounds of the Locrian Mode


When entering to each of those links you'll find the mode explained and you will find the chord that you get when harmonizing the root in thirds with the notes of the mode. Those are the chords used in the backing track.

For example, when David played A ionian, the chord sounding is Amaj7, when he plays A dorian, the chord sounding is Dm7, and so...

However, there is something more happening. As he is using a synth there, he is also adding the "characteristic note of each mode in the backing track.

What's the characteristic note?

It's the note that gives each mode an special flavor. Dorian's characteristic note is the major 6th, Phrygian's is the minor 2nd, Lydian's is the #4, Mixolydian's is the minor 7th, and locrian's sound is the dim5 combined with min3rd and min7th.

This can be a lot of info at first, but start exploring this universe and feel free to ask me everything you need to get into modes and clarify everything.


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post Nov 18 2015, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Nov 15 2015, 04:26 PM) *
Hi friend!

When asking stuff about practice and lessons, you can do it in different parts of the forum, but the best place would be to do it at the PRACTICE ROOM sub-forum: LINK HERE.

About your question, the backing track is based on A root but the chords change with the change of each modal pentatonic. Each chord used is the root chord of the mode that is being played. In order to learn the "root chord of each more I recommend you to explore this thread:

Sounds of the Ionian Mode

Sounds of the Dorian Mode

Sounds of the Phrygian Mode

Sounds of the Lydian Mode

Sounds of the Mixolydian Mode

Sounds of the Aeolian Mode

Sounds of the Locrian Mode


When entering to each of those links you'll find the mode explained and you will find the chord that you get when harmonizing the root in thirds with the notes of the mode. Those are the chords used in the backing track.

For example, when David played A ionian, the chord sounding is Amaj7, when he plays A dorian, the chord sounding is Dm7, and so...

However, there is something more happening. As he is using a synth there, he is also adding the "characteristic note of each mode in the backing track.

What's the characteristic note?

It's the note that gives each mode an special flavor. Dorian's characteristic note is the major 6th, Phrygian's is the minor 2nd, Lydian's is the #4, Mixolydian's is the minor 7th, and locrian's sound is the dim5 combined with min3rd and min7th.

This can be a lot of info at first, but start exploring this universe and feel free to ask me everything you need to get into modes and clarify everything.


Thank you for that in depth response!

So I think the chord sequence for the ionian exercise is:
A | | D | | F#m | | E | |
D | | F#m | | Bm | | A | |

The reason I wanted to know what the chords behind the exercises were is so that I can make my own backing track. I find it quite difficult to hear the changes underneath the drums and my guitar.
It will also help me to put the chords on the tab, so I can analyse which target notes he has chosen on the changes.
thanks

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Hello
My name is Jeff I am new to the site, just trying to find my way around!!
I have played guitar (and many other instruments) for many years, but always looking for new inspiration.
I found David Wallimann on YouTube and thought that he made a lot of sense so I joined the site.

I have started working on the modal pentatonics lessons and wanted to ask a question but I don't know how to post questions on the appropriate forum. It gives me an error. So I thought I would start here by introducing myself.


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QUOTE (Ostracman @ Nov 18 2015, 05:56 PM) *
Thank you for that in depth response!

So I think the chord sequence for the ionian exercise is:
A | | D | | F#m | | E | |
D | | F#m | | Bm | | A | |

The reason I wanted to know what the chords behind the exercises were is so that I can make my own backing track. I find it quite difficult to hear the changes underneath the drums and my guitar.
It will also help me to put the chords on the tab, so I can analyse which target notes he has chosen on the changes.
thanks



This is the correct progression:


A | | Asus4 | | F#m | | E | |
D | | A/C# | | Bm | | A | |


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Nov 19 2015, 01:52 PM) *
This is the correct progression:


A | | Asus4 | | F#m | | E | |
D | | A/C# | | Bm | | A | |


Thank you so much!
Is it possible to know the progressions for each of the modal pentatonic exercises?
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QUOTE (Ostracman @ Nov 19 2015, 03:35 PM) *
Thank you so much!
Is it possible to know the progressions for each of the modal pentatonic exercises?



Sure! Please share here the link to each lesson you'd like to know the progression and I'll transcribe it. wink.gif


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