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Kristofer Dahl
post Nov 15 2015, 04:35 PM
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In this video I am touching on this interesting subject.

Teaching starts at 03:12. And if you already know the basic pattern you can move on to 04:55.



It's a lot of fun when you master a pattern, to be able to play around with it freely. Also, remember you don't need to know many different patterns to create variations, as this video (hopefully) shows.


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post Nov 15 2015, 10:25 PM
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Thank you! Good advices.
Sometimes we forget to apply all these links in a musical way.


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post Nov 15 2015, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Huargo @ Nov 15 2015, 11:25 PM) *
Thank you! Good advices.
Sometimes we forget to apply all these links in a musical way.


Yes because most of us have a background of several years of metronome/exercise practicing. For me - good things started happening when I completely let go of that kind of practicing.


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post Nov 19 2015, 09:18 PM
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Great stuff Kris smile.gif This is too tricky for me but it might be a good idea for a weekly workshop but much slower. I find that when I'm improvising, all the little licks and patterns I learn go out of the window. Maybe a workshop with a slow learning curve giving certain patterns, licks, riffs, trills and explaining how to fit them into our playing would help.

Maybe I'm just missing something, like a brain laugh.gif blink.gif laugh.gif

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post Nov 19 2015, 10:19 PM
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Maybe you can replace the fast lick with any lick of your choice - and then apply the concepts?

I purposely did not give any tabs or anything like that for this lesson, as the idea is to apply this kind of thinking on your own playing.

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I find that when I'm improvising, all the little licks and patterns I learn go out of the window.


This applies to most people. That is why I suggets practicing improvisation and not expect it to sound good, rather follow my advice in this video and this one:



Most people tend to try improvisation, and then think "nah I gotta practice some more, this doesn't sound good". But the problem is that they don't practice improvising (but rather other stuff like technique) etc - and therefore never get better at it.

The point is that one has to accept it will sound bad in the beginning - just as with anything. But if you stick with it, it will start to sound good. But again - this only applies if you actually practice improvisation over a backing track. Otherwise it will never sound better (and again - this applies to everybody).


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post Nov 19 2015, 11:00 PM
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Very cool lesson, Kris. I really want to play those kinds of licks cool.gif
That's a really cool pattern, I didnt know it but Im going to use it, it's good to play.

I devote about half my practice time to playing patterns over a metronome, so that's on average about an hour per day just playing non musical patterns in an attempt to play faster. I dont find it boring at all, I like it but I have noticed that if I put on a backing track, I never play the patterns! Im totally that guy you mentioned with the "nah I gotta practice some more, this doesn't sound good" mindset smile.gif Im only at about 80-85 bpm for 16th note triplets ( if Ive worked that out correctly ) so maybe its because the backing track would need to be quite slow. Im gonna give it a try though cool.gif
thanks for posting the video.


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post Nov 19 2015, 11:22 PM
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Cool Bleez - my recommendation would be to try replacing almost all the metronome practicing with backing track practicing. You should start seeing positive results within weeks.

Remember to regularly find new backings and don't be afraid to stray from your exercises and jam away on the backing, whenever you feel like.

I only use the metronome for warmups or for practicing an isolated problem area. I might sometime jam to the metronome, but that is a different story.


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post Nov 20 2015, 09:44 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 19 2015, 10:22 PM) *
Cool Bleez - my recommendation would be to try replacing almost all the metronome practicing with backing track practicing. You should start seeing positive results within weeks.

Remember to regularly find new backings and don't be afraid to stray from your exercises and jam away on the backing, whenever you feel like.

I only use the metronome for warmups or for practicing an isolated problem area. I might sometime jam to the metronome, but that is a different story.

I shall give it a go smile.gif I'll grab the backing you used in that vid and work on that pattern.
Ive only been using the metronome in this way for about 2 years now. Ive managed to push the speed up a little in that time but tbh I actually think I should have progressed faster in those last 2 years than I have. Probably everyone feels that smile.gif but still.... ( at least ) an hour per day for the last 2 years 700 + hours.


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post Nov 20 2015, 10:07 AM
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Thanks Kris, great advice smile.gif


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post Nov 20 2015, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Nov 20 2015, 10:44 AM) *
I shall give it a go smile.gif I'll grab the backing you used in that vid and work on that pattern.
Ive only been using the metronome in this way for about 2 years now. Ive managed to push the speed up a little in that time but tbh I actually think I should have progressed faster in those last 2 years than I have. Probably everyone feels that smile.gif but still.... ( at least ) an hour per day for the last 2 years 700 + hours.


I personally feel I have made more progress the last year, compared to a previous period of 5 years. A big part of it has to do with skipping technique building with metronome. Other than that - recording myself often has been a game changer as well (and that's why you guys should use REC as much as you can).


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post Nov 22 2015, 11:15 AM
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Very good tips. You may already mention it, but where/or can i find the backing track?

Edit: Never mind, found it:)

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post Nov 22 2015, 04:12 PM
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Awesome you like it Anders, if you would like more examples of this kind of stuff I will be doing a live video chat in aprox 2 hours ( here: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/chat )


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post Nov 22 2015, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 22 2015, 03:12 PM) *
Awesome you like it Anders, if you would like more examples of this kind of stuff I will be doing a live video chat in aprox 2 hours ( here: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/chat )

Very nice, i must admit, i feel guilty considering implement fast shredding in musical context. I am one of thoose who spending time with the metronome. I thnik i should try to play/implement my licks in music and of course develop my speed with the metronome, but not only play/train with metronome.
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post Nov 22 2015, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE (Anders Karlsson @ Nov 22 2015, 06:40 PM) *
Very nice, i must admit, i feel guilty considering implement fast shredding in musical context. I am one of thoose who spending time with the metronome. I thnik i should try to play/implement my licks in music and of course develop my speed with the metronome, but not only play/train with metronome.


Yes this is sounds like a very good strategy!

It was awesome meeting you in the chat! biggrin.gif


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post Nov 22 2015, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 22 2015, 06:54 PM) *
Yes this is sounds like a very good strategy!

It was awesome meeting you in the chat! biggrin.gif


thank you too, i just made a quick visit:)
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