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Gabriel Leopardi
post Jan 8 2016, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 8 2016, 06:03 PM) *
Thanks Gab,

That has helped me a lot, I thought the chords were going to be the same as the ones as in the "Backing track progression GP5" file in assignment 1 smile.gif So when I was trying I couldn't get it to sound right at all.

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hehehe not exactly, those are the reference simplified chords for this stage of the workout and playing them over the backing will sound good. Once again, less info to keep things simple. wink.gif


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post Jan 9 2016, 11:04 AM
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It was simple but confusing laugh.gif there was me, trying to play the rhythm with the two barre chords blink.gif biggrin.gif


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post Jan 9 2016, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 9 2016, 07:04 AM) *
It was simple but confusing laugh.gif there was me, trying to play the rhythm with the two barre chords blink.gif biggrin.gif



Hey Phil, as you've seen in the tasks we are using the barre chords as a guide to visualize the shapes and be able to find the strong notes in Pentatonic scale. While in the backing my guitar is playing a power chords with an extended note, the idea of the lesson is to visualize that first shape of A major (and later we will do it with the other one). wink.gif


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post Jan 9 2016, 02:14 PM
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Very interesting. That's exactly the kind of work I intented to make by myself !
I'd like to participate !
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post Jan 9 2016, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (Lester @ Jan 8 2016, 11:22 AM) *
Nice, I'm in as well! cool.gif


QUOTE (Daeron @ Jan 9 2016, 10:14 AM) *
Very interesting. That's exactly the kind of work I intented to make by myself !
I'd like to participate !




You are totally welcome guys! smile.gif


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post Jan 9 2016, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jan 9 2016, 12:38 PM) *
Hey Phil, as you've seen in the tasks we are using the barre chords as a guide to visualize the shapes and be able to find the strong notes in Pentatonic scale. While in the backing my guitar is playing a power chords with an extended note, the idea of the lesson is to visualize that first shape of A major (and later we will do it with the other one). wink.gif



Yes Gab, it's brilliant and it works. As I said in my mentoring thread, it works so well because that pentatonic shape works around the position of the chord not a few frets away. I'm not picking fault mate, I just think it's good for your experience as an instructor to understand where some students struggle a little bit. Thanks for this course, it's just what I needed and the long interval gives us time to get to grips with it.

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post Jan 10 2016, 03:35 PM
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Here is my first take for assignment1. Shared a video so that you can seen what I am trying to play cool.gif
Wanted to give the melody an A/B structure. Also changed pickup and tone to support this.



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post Jan 10 2016, 10:14 PM
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OK here's a couple of takes, both start out the same but are different after. It's really simple nursery rhyme stuff but I do struggle improvising, this backing is not grabbing me for some reason. I'll post some more as we go along, this is a great way to learn news scale patters and relationships with scales and chords smile.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/assignment-1-take-1

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/assignment-1-take-2

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post Jan 11 2016, 04:13 AM
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QUOTE (Tom51 @ Jan 10 2016, 11:35 AM) *
Here is my first take for assignment1. Shared a video so that you can seen what I am trying to play cool.gif
Wanted to give the melody an A/B structure. Also changed pickup and tone to support this.




Hi Tom, interesting take. Your phrasing can be noted because you make a good use of rhythm to construct "answers" and "questions". I would put a bit more attention to the longer notes. I think that focusing more on notes from A major chord when playing long notes and phrases resolution will make your solo connect more with the backing and also to release in some parts. I feel that the solo keep a "tension" feel, if this is intentional, it's ok, but if not, I recommend to target more on thirds of the two chords.

I've also noticed that you are moving to other parts of the neck, are you visualizing chord shapes in those sections?


QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jan 10 2016, 06:14 PM) *
OK here's a couple of takes, both start out the same but are different after. It's really simple nursery rhyme stuff but I do struggle improvising, this backing is not grabbing me for some reason. I'll post some more as we go along, this is a great way to learn news scale patters and relationships with scales and chords smile.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/assignment-1-take-1

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/assignment-1-take-2

Thanks Gab



Great job Phil! You are working on this exactly as suggested and I'm starting to hear very musical phrases here. Keep on experimenting now also focusing on expressing techniques like bending, vibrato, dynamics, etc.



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Thanks Gab. About your questions:

No, I did not want to keep tension till the end. I simply was not able to resolve this and then the backing was nearly over. I thought when I stay at more on a F# and the end it would work. Hey, it seems it did not. blink.gif
I would rework the improvisation with your advise in mind to stay more on on thirds (C# and A) of both chords especially on longe notes and at the end. Did I get this right?

To visualize notes on the fretboard I played A major scale (using CAGED) at all positions I know. That was used so move around the fretboard. I actually was only working around three A notes (E-string 5th fret, A string 12th, D string -7th) and build my major scales around these starting points. Played this as warmup before starting.
Should I better stay with chord shapes only to support the strong notes or is that idea okay?

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post Jan 11 2016, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (Tom51 @ Jan 11 2016, 05:15 AM) *
No, I did not want to keep tension till the end. I simply was not able to resolve this and then the backing was nearly over. I thought when I stay at more on a F# and the end it would work. Hey, it seems it did not. blink.gif
I would rework the improvisation with your advise in mind to stay more on on thirds (C# and A) of both chords especially on longe notes and at the end. Did I get this right?


yes, you got it right.


QUOTE (Tom51 @ Jan 11 2016, 05:15 AM) *
To visualize notes on the fretboard I played A major scale (using CAGED) at all positions I know. That was used so move around the fretboard. I actually was only working around three A notes (E-string 5th fret, A string 12th, D string -7th) and build my major scales around these starting points. Played this as warmup before starting.
Should I better stay with chord shapes only to support the strong notes or is that idea okay?



In order to be able to do the previous thing (following the chords) smoother, I recommend to stay in 1 position. Then we will expand the idea.


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post Jan 11 2016, 03:17 PM
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That makes sense - so I will try something new staying at the one position you showed us in the scale generator.

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QUOTE (Tom51 @ Jan 11 2016, 11:17 AM) *
That makes sense - so I will try something new staying at the one position you showed us in the scale generator.

Cheers Tom



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post Jan 12 2016, 11:10 PM
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I'm working on some more to Gab. Trying to get it to stick in my head wink.gif


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Ok another take, I think this is a good way of ear training too. As this is a new scale shape for me and for years I've used another pentatonic shape my fingers still go to the old places rolleyes.gif The thing is, I notice that it sounds off now smile.gif

It's just an improvisation, I find it hard to come up with different things for the same backing so this is good practise to overcome those chains wink.gif

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/assignment-1-take-3

Thanks for this workout Gab, It's brilliant and a great pace to give us time to think and absorb what we are actually playing note wise smile.gif



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I had a crack at task 1 as well, let me know what you think biggrin.gif

https://soundcloud.com/lester-moorman/task-1-take-1

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Very nice takes both - you are really setting the bar high. ohmy.gif

Phil - I listened to our audio once and can't get it out of my head. smile.gif
Lester - great feel and a wonderful tone. Do you use a software amp in your DAW or is it a real amp with pedals and mic you have recorded?

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Thanks Tom!

It's just a MIDI interface with guitar rig wink.gif
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Thanks Tom:)



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Allright, here is my jam in A major pentatonic, thanks for the feedback! smile.gif

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