Strumming With Your Foot
Phil66
Mar 2 2016, 09:28 PM
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Hello dudes and dudettes,

OK, the title was a bit weird but it got you here eh? laugh.gif

Right, I'm a bit embarrassed to ask this but here goes. When you'r tapping your foot and strumming, let's just say 4/4. Should the first string of the strum be hit as your foot hits the floor or the last string?

The reason I ask is that my hand goes up and down with my foot so as soon as my foot starts to come back up so does my hand but I've been thinking (I think too much rolleyes.gif ) your foot hits the floor on the beat, should the strum start on the beat?

Sorry if this seems such a fundamental question from such a proficient player as myself laugh.gif but as I said I've been thinking and now I'm confused.

If anyone can post a simultaneous video of foot and hand whilst strumming that would be awesome.

Thanks folks.

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Mar 3 2016, 01:34 PM
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Hi Phil, interesting question. I've never made it to myself so the first thing that I've done is try it and see what I'm doing naturally. Synchronizing your foot with your hand is correct from my point of view however there is variable related to how fast you strum the strings. This should be a decision related to the song and the feel that you want to give to the song. If the strum is fast, the feel will be that all the strings are played even with the beat, however if the strum is slower you will play some of the lower string a bit earlier.

Musicians at the studio use this to give the tracks different feels. But we are always talking about miliseconds, which give a different groove feeling to the track.

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Phil66
Mar 3 2016, 01:39 PM
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Thanks Gab,
I've never really thought about it and not really played much rhythm bit I started to think about it and thought I'd been doing it wrong because how I do it is as though my hand is connected to my foot. I started to think that doing it that way means you're playing in front of the beat and the GMC instructors are always saying you shouldn't do that.
Cheers Gab smile.gif

UPDATE:
Thinking head on again. So if you're strumming to an audience, no metronome, no drum, nothing but your guitar and your foot, they can't see or hear your foot. You ask them to clap along, how do you think the clapping would be compared to your foot? smile.gif

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Mar 6 2016, 11:06 PM
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Anyone got an answer to the question in the update above?
I'm really intrigued about what you all say wink.gif

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 6 2016, 10:06 PM) *
Anyone got an answer to the question in the update above?
I'm really intrigued about what you all say wink.gif


Hey Phil,

If you were strumming while tapping your foot you will be naturally accenting the down beat (down strokes) and your upstrokes will be lighter so this should come across to the audience even though they couldn't hear your foot. A strumming pattern with equal velocity on all down and up strokes would be very unnatural sounding, kind of like how some midi programmes interpret guitar tab sometimes.

Hope that helps

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Mar 6 2016, 11:22 PM
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Thanks Chris,
I'm more curious as to whether their clap would coincide with the start of the strum (in which case it wouldn't match the tapping foot), or the invisible tapping foot.

This is a discussion for a few of us round a table down the pub with a few pints laugh.gif It's one of those subjects wink.gif

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Mar 6 2016, 11:22 PM) *
Thanks Chris,
I'm more curious as to whether their clap would coincide with the start of the strum (in which case it wouldn't match the tapping foot), or the invisible tapping foot.

This is a discussion for a few of us round a table down the pub with a few pints laugh.gif It's one of those subjects wink.gif

Cheers

Phil

I think it will be different for every song( mostly ) what was mentioned above . I always shriek at having the audience keep my beat, but for some songs , getting them involved can be good. If I wanted the audience to clap , I would get them started and then join in and match the song to their timing. Trying to get a possibly tempo challenged audience to join in and not throw the timing off or start on a down beat is always "fun"

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Phil66
Mar 7 2016, 02:11 PM
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Yeah I can guess what you mean smile.gif
Would be a good experiment though. Set up a camera on your hidden for and start playing, then get the audience to join in and have a separate camera filming them.
My wife would be terrible, she always claps inbetween the beat and the offbeat blink.gif
It just got my me thinking when I asked that first question.
As I said, good chat for musicians down the pub wink.gif
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