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gnarkill
post Mar 9 2016, 07:43 PM
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Currently I have a Wylde Overdrive. I use it in front of my 6505. I like the sound, but its NOISY. If I turn it down, I lose that sound I am after. Normally, I would just put my gate after it, but I now use it in my effects loop (much better placement here) and it does a great job.

I have been flirting with the idea of a different overdrive or maybe the ts9. But are they gonna be less noisy in front? My friend says most metal players use the ts9 as a clean boost... but I dont really understand what that means. Additionally, I suppose my problems could be fixed with another noise gate pedal, right? But do I want two in my loop?
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post Mar 9 2016, 08:54 PM
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I don't have hands on experience with the pedal but from web demo's I know it can get pretty aggressive.

Think OD's like ts9's as an additional tube added to an amp, when engaged its like a second drive button on the amp which adds more gain. This is when inserted to the input of the amp, the more aggresive we want the amp (which already has a bit drive going on) to be the more gain and output we add from the pedal. This is how clean boost term is used for OD pedals (boost can be done with many types of pedals, the flavor is the preference factor)

But you add it to the fx loop which to me means you are using its drive like an amp character. We call these types of pedals "amp-like-sounding" as they can work both as a booster (like ts9) or to alter the amps tone using it on the fx loop.

But ts9 or your pedal aren't designed for this in mind which may explain the noise. The stuff I'm refering to are some of wampler (pinnacle, plexi drive...preferably deluxe models), tech 21 character series or the new mxr evh pedal. The entire input section of the amp can be bypassed by these pedals as guitar-to-pedal-to-fx loop.

Also, if someone uses the amp set clean but solo's with a cranked od from the input (all drive sound from od pedal) this strongly indicates they actualy want a low-gain distortion pedal like a boss ds1. By doing this, you get more of the amps eq character but the drive character can be changed...

its really up to you on how you want to approach this, but best starting point seems to try and understand what you prefer less about the amp to transform and rely that role to a pedal.

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Todd Simpson
post Mar 10 2016, 12:34 AM
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Great advice from Mertay per usual!!!! The drive will add noise as it is raising your noise floor. Try increasing the volume on the pedal an decreasing gain. Leave your gate where it is and consider looking at the TC ELECTRONIC sentry gate. I've tried them all, owned them all, and was stuck on the MXR smart gate till I tried the SENTRY. It is soooo sensitive. It will cure all of your noise issues and nod mess with your tone. smile.gif


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post Mar 10 2016, 05:40 AM
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I tried the clean boost option, and that was the answer I was looking for.

As far as the Sentry... Have it. Love it.
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post Mar 10 2016, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE (gnarkill @ Mar 10 2016, 04:40 AM) *
I tried the clean boost option, and that was the answer I was looking for.


Cool, have fun smile.gif


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post Mar 10 2016, 04:26 PM
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Again Mertay has got the point. Any overdrive pedal in front of the amp will add noise even if you only use it as a treble boost (most common with Tube Screamer). It's a kind of "double comrpession" thing when you put distortion in front of...distortion from the amp. And compression does pull out some noise as well....something that has been already there, but maybe not so visible by far


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post Mar 10 2016, 06:02 PM
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Happy to help smile.gif Yeah, the SENTRY is just the best gate I've ever tried. Even better than the smartgate IMHO and way better than any of the rocktron hush products or ISP decimator line IMHO.

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QUOTE (gnarkill @ Mar 9 2016, 11:40 PM) *
I tried the clean boost option, and that was the answer I was looking for.

As far as the Sentry... Have it. Love it.



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