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Beckerfan72
post May 19 2016, 04:03 AM
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Are there any Axe-Fx users here who would be willing to give me advice on making a good patch? I'm a noob and I have no idea what half the dials do lol. Or if anyone has a good lead patch they could share that would be awesome too. I'm using an Ibanez RG 550 with a Gravity Storm in the neck and a Steves Special in the bridge.
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post May 19 2016, 07:00 AM
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If you're using the quantum version of the firmware, the factory patches should sound good right out of the box. But a lot depends on what you mean by "good". Believe it or not, opinions vary on what kind of music sounds good smile.gif. And your ability to achieve that will depend a lot on the details of your particular setup. In any case, the better place to ask your question would be the Fractal Audio forum where there are a lot more AxeFX users to help you out. http://forum.fractalaudio.com

I'll caution you though, the Axe FX is not a plug and play device. Ask how to get a good Van Halen brown tone on a Kemper and someone will give you a profile to load that nails it. Ask how to get a good Van Halen brown tone on an Axe FX and someone will direct you to a 15 minute youtube video that shows dozens of parameters to tweak to nail it (I am not making this up smile.gif). In other words, you may need to learn what the other half of the parameters do.




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post May 19 2016, 09:54 AM
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QUOTE (Rammikin @ May 19 2016, 06:00 AM) *
If you're using the quantum version of the firmware, the factory patches should sound good right out of the box. But a lot depends on what you mean by "good". Believe it or not, opinions vary on what kind of music sounds good smile.gif. And your ability to achieve that will depend a lot on the details of your particular setup. In any case, the better place to ask your question would be the Fractal Audio forum where there are a lot more AxeFX users to help you out. http://forum.fractalaudio.com

I'll caution you though, the Axe FX is not a plug and play device. Ask how to get a good Van Halen brown tone on a Kemper and someone will give you a profile to load that nails it. Ask how to get a good Van Halen brown tone on an Axe FX and someone will direct you to a 15 minute youtube video that shows dozens of parameters to tweak to nail it (I am not making this up smile.gif). In other words, you may need to learn what the other half of the parameters do.



I'm the same opionion than Rammikin.
You have a lot and very good factory patches.
Chose one or two and make some fine adjustmennts.
For this adjustmennt you need only the main buttons. The same buttons that you have on a normal amp.....
And the rest is learning by doing.
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Beckerfan72
post May 19 2016, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE (Rammikin @ May 19 2016, 06:00 AM) *
If you're using the quantum version of the firmware, the factory patches should sound good right out of the box. But a lot depends on what you mean by "good". Believe it or not, opinions vary on what kind of music sounds good smile.gif. And your ability to achieve that will depend a lot on the details of your particular setup. In any case, the better place to ask your question would be the Fractal Audio forum where there are a lot more AxeFX users to help you out. http://forum.fractalaudio.com

I'll caution you though, the Axe FX is not a plug and play device. Ask how to get a good Van Halen brown tone on a Kemper and someone will give you a profile to load that nails it. Ask how to get a good Van Halen brown tone on an Axe FX and someone will direct you to a 15 minute youtube video that shows dozens of parameters to tweak to nail it (I am not making this up smile.gif). In other words, you may need to learn what the other half of the parameters do.




I totally agree that music taste is subjective. I guess I should have chosen my words more carefully. It does sound great out of the box. Your right about the Kemper and Axe difference lol. I like Jeff Loomis' tone, Jason Richardsons tone, and Jason Beckers tone (I'm sure you guessed that from my profile name lol). Thanks for the advice.
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post May 21 2016, 11:45 AM
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Pete Thorn has a patches available to buy through Fractal

As for free user patches check out for two guys Yek and Fremen, oh and also Mark Day (Mark works for Fractal now) they all produce really good patches, I use their Axe Fx Ultra ones


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post May 21 2016, 02:58 PM
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As others have already said, the AXeFX is a tweaker's machine. Although I like a fair number of the standard factory patches, I don't really use them much. As Posterboy posted, I would really read some of Yek's Amp model posts. You can find a list here: http://forum.fractalaudio.com/search/13551...mp;o=date&c[title_only]=1&c[node]=61

I would also read articles on guitar tone and eq. Maybe start here : http://amptone.com/index.html . Although it has been a while since I refreshed my knowledge. As opposed to the Kemper, the AxeFX does, at least for me, produce much better results with knowledge about the guitar amp signal chain of real life tube amps. How past guitarist, those whose tone you wish to emulate, used the signal chain to produce their sound. What I've been doing lately is using Todd's Saturday Shred Fest posts to take a AxeFX amp model, a Yek's model advice, listening to different cabs, and signal chain info to create a new tone to learn more about the AxeFX potential. My last SatShredFest post used an amp, Yek settings, a cab like in Yek advice, and just a delay to find a darker smooth tone.
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post May 22 2016, 07:41 PM
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Tone !!!!!! ???? There's so much to be said about that! My Axe Fx with my fingers !!!, my guitar, my capabilities and restrictions, and setup will probably sound different, with the same preset but a different player and setup. We all know stories about guitar legends that have been seeking the ultimate tone, their entire lives and with all respect to that, it IS a very important issue . We all want to sound as our heroes do, and they wanted to sound as their heroes did.
Your Axe FX delivers all the possibilities to find the tone you like for a particular occasion. The presets will get you very far, most of them are programmed by specialists. But of course you might need some tweaking for your own setup ( and playing). Please read the manual how you can adjust things, tweak them to the exact way you like, add some modulation or whatever, it's worth your time !!!! smile.gif

First step : Go into the LAYOUT !!!! If you own an MFC-101 you will see all the the items that are programmed (active or not) in the preset. If you don't have one, press LAYOUT and you'll see the complete chain. Playing with them alone will change your sound completely. You probably know this already, and if so, ... sorry! But it's a first step and from there the sky is the limit. If you like a preset but want to change it, store it into another presetnumber (Store as - enter -enter). Than you can go crazy with it, and still have the original

I tried the AXE FX preset exchange but somehow, I like the quality of the factory presets more. I can hear what some guys are trying to achieve in the preset (and probably it works for them) but I think it sounds different in their room, ... with their setup and fingers. Just take that in consideration and as you probably know, there"s also a lot to be said about what happens to the sound , after a guitar has been recorded, at the mixing, and eventually mastering stage !!!



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post May 24 2016, 02:41 AM
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Thanks for the info guys! Much appreciated. There's so much potential it can be overwhelming lol.

QUOTE (GeneT95 @ May 21 2016, 01:58 PM) *
As others have already said, the AXeFX is a tweaker's machine. Although I like a fair number of the standard factory patches, I don't really use them much. As Posterboy posted, I would really read some of Yek's Amp model posts. You can find a list here: http://forum.fractalaudio.com/search/13551...mp;o=date&c[title_only]=1&c[node]=61

I would also read articles on guitar tone and eq. Maybe start here : http://amptone.com/index.html . Although it has been a while since I refreshed my knowledge. As opposed to the Kemper, the AxeFX does, at least for me, produce much better results with knowledge about the guitar amp signal chain of real life tube amps. How past guitarist, those whose tone you wish to emulate, used the signal chain to produce their sound. What I've been doing lately is using Todd's Saturday Shred Fest posts to take a AxeFX amp model, a Yek's model advice, listening to different cabs, and signal chain info to create a new tone to learn more about the AxeFX potential. My last SatShredFest post used an amp, Yek settings, a cab like in Yek advice, and just a delay to find a darker smooth tone.



Thank you so much for those links! They are really helpful.
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