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David Wallimann
post Jul 30 2007, 04:53 PM
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Hi guys - I finished mixing your leads in the backing track! smile.gif

First of all I want to thank all of you for your hard work. I know that some of you went through a few trouble recording and I am very impressed with your hard work. Also, I am very pleased that this collaboration groups players from different levels.

Since I only had your leads, I tried to make them fit on the backing track, I hope that's how you played it over the track...

Here are my thoughts on what you guys did - a suggestion would be to lsiten to the mp3 while reading the comments for each member!

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Ionian (Nick325)
You stayed in the right key for the most part, but a few notes seem a little off... I like some of your ideas but I would try to organize them a little better. My advice would be to play the backing track without your guitar and sing a melody over it. It doden't have to be very complicated but if you do that next time you work on creating a lead you will come up with realy good melodic ideas. Great first collab though! Good job!


Dorian (Ezravdb)

I really like the way you constructed your lead. You started with a nice melodic arpeggio and slowly moved towards more technical licks. Overall your lead has a beggining, middle technical section, and closing. I would continue developing your technique by taking all the licks you played very slow to focus on a clean picking. Doing that will bring you to a much higher level fast. Great job!


Phrygian (Stratman58)

Good job on following the notes of the scale! You picked a mode that isn't very easy to play over, but you managed to capture the "colour" of that mode very well. My suggestion for next time would be to put the guitar down for a minute and just sing over the backing track.. Then reproduce what you sang on your guitar. I think you'll come up with very cool ideas that way. Good job!


Lydian (Andrew)

Excellent job on the lydian part. Your lead is very melodic and is well focused on the important augmented 4th from the Lydian mode...
Great job!


Mixolydian (Tank)

Very good construction of your lead. I think your strength is in expression, I hear a very pleasant and controled vibrato on the longer notes. The faster parts are cool too. I would work on the flahy parts. Break them down to smaller parts and practice and analyze all the movements and eliminate all unnecessary noises... Very good job!


Aeolian (Jeff)

Very nice melodic lead. I love your ideas and how you mixed nice melodies with interesting technical ideas like the sweep you did... I think you need mostly to work on improving your rythm. It's good, but you will gain a lot by working on sequences with metronome.. I am taking that advice for myself as well.. :-) Good job!


Locrian (MickeyM)

You did a really great job with the locrian! That mode is not very comfortable to play with because of all the tension it has.. But you did great! Only thing is that I would focus moire on resolvinbg all your ideas by going back and staying a little longer on the root of the scale. Good job!



That's it for the first collaboration. Once again thank you so much for your hard work. You all did an excellent job! I hope the comments I made were insightful. Those are my suggestions, and are only meant to help you improve. You already are at a descent level and I think that if you apply the ideas I gave you you will become a better musician. There's always something new to learn. Thanks again and I will see you soon on the next collaboration!

--David

Editorial note: For those of you who aren't familiar with David Wallimann - be sure to check out some of his lessons - as he has covered many interesting theory topics:

Metalhead
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post Jul 30 2007, 06:07 PM
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Great stuff!

David, is it possible to make all of the different parts the same level? I noticed that there is some variance in volume between them all.

Lastly, and I'm sure I beat Andrew to this (tongue.gif), should you copy this post and put it into the completed collab thread? https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...?showtopic=5594

I look forward to hearing more of these and participating myself shortly!


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post Jul 30 2007, 06:10 PM
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It's kind of hard to ,mix all at the same level..
I tried my best to give this a natural feel but since all the leads were recorded at different levels, I had to tweak at my best...
I think Kris will take care of adding to the finished collabs thread.
I'm looking forward to the next collab and hope to have you on it!


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post Jul 30 2007, 06:11 PM
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This is absolutely brilliant - I must also say that ALL the participants did an excellent job, expecially considering the difference in levels!

Thanks David! biggrin.gif

PS It took aprox 20 seconds for the mp3 to get it's first 10 downloads... blink.gif biggrin.gif


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post Jul 30 2007, 06:12 PM
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Wow!
That's great!
Looking forward to the next ones..
Maybe this new section will be a big part of GMC now. :-)


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This is absolutely brilliant - I must also say that ALL the participants did an excellent job, expecially considering the difference in levels!

Thanks David! biggrin.gif

PS It took aprox 20 seconds for the mp3 to get it's first 10 downloads... blink.gif biggrin.gif


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post Jul 30 2007, 06:16 PM
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Good suggestion on how to improve my playing, I'll work on that part finding my way back to the root note.

Thanks David! :-)


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post Jul 30 2007, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (Wallimann @ Jul 30 2007, 07:12 PM) *
Wow!
That's great!
Looking forward to the next ones..
Maybe this new section will be a big part of GMC now. :-)


Yes I hope so too! smile.gif


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post Jul 30 2007, 06:36 PM
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I will admit I was a tad bit skeptical of this forum but I am very happy to see it blossoming not only quickly, but in a very ear pleasing fashion!


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post Jul 30 2007, 06:48 PM
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where can i find the backing track to practice with
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post Jul 30 2007, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (lliber @ Jul 30 2007, 07:48 PM) *
where can i find the backing track to practice with


Click the is link - or got to the collaborations board!

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...ost&id=1063


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post Jul 30 2007, 07:22 PM
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Hey, I was wondering if people who have nice drum machines or drum softwares can make drum tracks to jam along. Most of us either dont have one or dont know how to make a nice jamm along drum track. This would also be some respite from the boring metronome.


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post Jul 30 2007, 07:27 PM
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David,

Thanks for giving us the opportunity to do this. It was fun. I really appreciate your suggestions. I just learned that scale before I played it on this song so it was totally unfamiliar to me. But I like it now and I want to practice it a lot more - especially with the metronome! This will help! thank you. smile.gif
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Very nice im going to have to join up and maybe due the next one smile.gif.
I dont have any recording gear though sad.gif

But wow Andrew your lead was very well constructed.


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This was definitely a great learning experience for me, thanks for the pointer Wallimann! I also love the diversity in skill level of the 7 players in this! I'm going to continue to use the backing as a practice tool smile.gif


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post Jul 30 2007, 10:17 PM
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Cool stuff guys, turned out great!
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Guys,you did and awesome job,congrats to all!!
Let me know when something new is up,most hit few notes!!


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post Jul 30 2007, 10:41 PM
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Wow man, this is an EXCELLENT display of community involvement, getting us involved, making cool tracks, and best of all, learning! Now I can listen to this to get inspired when i go to play in different modes, to a get a feel of them (when i learn how to phrase :|).

Awesome compilation nonetheless.

Oh, and I think this should be done as often as possible!

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Thanks for the comments Dave smile.gif That was my first real effort at Lydian, but your excellently constructed backing track made it easy, with the pedal bass note and the cunning chord selection smile.gif It has given me a lot more confidence playing the various modes.


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QUOTE (atomix1337 @ Jul 30 2007, 11:41 PM) *
Wow man, this is an EXCELLENT display of community involvement, getting us involved, making cool tracks, and best of all, learning! Now I can listen to this to get inspired when i go to play in different modes, to a get a feel of them (when i learn how to phrase :|).

Awesome compilation nonetheless.

Oh, and I think this should be done as often as possible!

(Please!)


This is awesome feedback for the crew - thanks! biggrin.gif

I also want remind you that Andrew has worked hard to make this happen - coordinating instructors (more collaborations are to follow). Also, the idea originates from a post MickeM did earlier!


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thanks for the feedback Walliman, the result sounds great together.


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