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post Jun 3 2016, 01:38 PM
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when i watch some great guitar lesson my first thought is " what a great thing it would be if i could perform this solo like the teacher " so i set about to start learning the lesson. after i have learnt about one third of the song i realize that my initial thought about the lesson is not so strong . i am more attracted to other lessons. soon the lesson learning turns more into a struggle and when that happens even though i want to finish the lesson i start procrastinating my focus moves to another lesson / technique / category of guitar learning and the same happens with that. since i love playing guitar a lot this doesn't discourages me to quit playing but just move to something else. its also not that after learning something else for some time i am happy to come back to old lesson. once i come to a state where the lesson becomes a struggle in my mind it remains that way forever.

i sometimes feel i am trying a lesson that is too difficult and move to a simpler one but that makes the desire to learn the lesson also low and i end up quitting that one also mid way.

This has been happening for last 2 years and even though positive thing is i have improved on guitar a lot . i have spent more time on learning exercises and improving my technique with licks and not learnt even a single song / lesson that is at least long enough to perform to an audience.

Please suggest some ways i can stay motivated till i finish the lesson and the lesson should not become a struggle in the middle of learning it
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post Jun 3 2016, 01:47 PM
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Well, this is not about lessons, as I rarely work on lessons these days myself.

It sounds like you've in general hit a bit of a motivational wall? At least in terms of not having practiced other peoples' songs. Have you considered starting to work on your own music? That seems to be the ultimate goal for me at least, working on my own music.


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post Jun 3 2016, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Jun 3 2016, 12:47 PM) *
Well, this is not about lessons, as I rarely work on lessons these days myself.

It sounds like you've in general hit a bit of a motivational wall? At least in terms of not having practiced other peoples' songs. Have you considered starting to work on your own music? That seems to be the ultimate goal for me at least, working on my own music.


i don't have too much desire at the moment to compose my own music i think its something that i will eventually evolve into once i am able to satisfy my desire to perform lead guitar covers of my favorites to an audience.

isn't it also the case with you that before composing your own music you have achieved enough guitarist skills to learn your favorite songs and perform for an audience .
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post Jun 3 2016, 02:11 PM
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Nothing is wrong with you, well nothing that most other people go through. It's natural to shy away from the boring repetitive hard work needed to obtain the technique level to play some of the lessons, and so we look elsewhere for something that will give us instant gratification.


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post Jun 3 2016, 03:21 PM
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Interesting thread. I don't think that it's something wrong with you since you stay playing and motivated which are the main goals to keep on growing as a musician.

However, I believe that we get more from what we learn when we work on details, and these details are worked and polished after many days of practicing the same thing. It doesn't have to be a whole lesson, but it you learn 2 or 3 parts from a lesson, I recommend you to keep on practicing it every day, trying to polish performance details, like dynamics, groove, the way you do vibrato, the speed of your bends, etc... this is the only way to really digest what you've learnt and make it have a more important impact in your playing.

We are all different so we have to find the way, the trick, that works for us to stay motivated. Some players can work on their own, setting goals and going for them, some others need a mentor or guitar teacher, others need to have a real band / musical project as an excuse to work on something until it's mastered. You need to find your own "system" to do it.



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post Jun 3 2016, 04:36 PM
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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Jun 3 2016, 02:21 PM) *
Interesting thread. I don't think that it's something wrong with you since you stay playing and motivated which are the main goals to keep on growing as a musician.

However, I believe that we get more from what we learn when we work on details, and these details are worked and polished after many days of practicing the same thing. It doesn't have to be a whole lesson, but it you learn 2 or 3 parts from a lesson, I recommend you to keep on practicing it every day, trying to polish performance details, like dynamics, groove, the way you do vibrato, the speed of your bends, etc... this is the only way to really digest what you've learnt and make it have a more important impact in your playing.

We are all different so we have to find the way, the trick, that works for us to stay motivated. Some players can work on their own, setting goals and going for them, some others need a mentor or guitar teacher, others need to have a real band / musical project as an excuse to work on something until it's mastered. You need to find your own "system" to do it.


thanks gabriel and posterboy

i think i need some guidance in setting goals and breaking them into every day tasks because i always feel that i am improving on guitar but i keep doing extra thinking and worrying whether i am doing the best utilization of my time . i keep worrying with thoughts like, 'at the moment i think i am going to achieve what i want to achieve but what if at a later stage i find that i should have done better , used my time better, approach should have been different , etc.' Once i am sure that someone is taking care of the bigger picture and setting the daily tasks for me accordingly i can focus only on what i can do today and not worry for planning and future

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post Jun 3 2016, 09:25 PM
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Simmitnxt,

I am exactly the same as you, if you feel you need to finish the lessons my best advice is to get a mentor. I don't know if any spaces are left though. Having a mentor stops you flitting from one lesson to the next because you feel obliged to finish the lesson for your mentor. Whatever level you get to there will always be tricky parts in the lesson and that is where most people will look for another lesson because they want to progress and they think that the tricky part is preventing progression. It isn't, it is highlighting where you need to work harder, sticking with it will reap benefits, trust me, I always want to move on when I get a tricky bit but the next lesson will have another one. Sometimes you can get a feel good factor by going back a level and completing a lesson, I recently did this with the Satriani Made Easy lesson, I got it down pretty quick and felt great about it but it shouldn't be done too often.

I hope this gives you some help.

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post Jun 4 2016, 04:55 AM
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Todd here smile.gif I know exactly what you mean. I'd suggest joining my SHRED BOOTCAMP. It's focused on the core fundamentals of being able to eventually play with precision, speed and grace. As you progress you get feedback and there is a Badge system that let's you know where you stand in terms of your progress. Our highest ranking member is on Lesson #30. The lessons start small and easy. Very quick. Takes about 10 minutes to learn and record your vid. Get's tough around 20, harder at 30. By that time you've developed the skills you need to play whatever you like.

If you would like to join SHRED BOOTCAMP just shoot me a personal message using the message system here on GMC and I"ll set you up smile.gif Just for a preview here is the link to all 400 plus lessons in sequence.

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QUOTE (sumitnxt @ Jun 3 2016, 11:36 AM) *
thanks gabriel and posterboy

i think i need some guidance in setting goals and breaking them into every day tasks because i always feel that i am improving on guitar but i keep doing extra thinking and worrying whether i am doing the best utilization of my time . i keep worrying with thoughts like, 'at the moment i think i am going to achieve what i want to achieve but what if at a later stage i find that i should have done better , used my time better, approach should have been different , etc.' Once i am sure that someone is taking care of the bigger picture and setting the daily tasks for me accordingly i can focus only on what i can do today and not worry for planning and future


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post Jun 4 2016, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Jun 3 2016, 08:25 PM) *
Simmitnxt,

I am exactly the same as you, if you feel you need to finish the lessons my best advice is to get a mentor. I don't know if any spaces are left though. Having a mentor stops you flitting from one lesson to the next because you feel obliged to finish the lesson for your mentor. Whatever level you get to there will always be tricky parts in the lesson and that is where most people will look for another lesson because they want to progress and they think that the tricky part is preventing progression. It isn't, it is highlighting where you need to work harder, sticking with it will reap benefits, trust me, I always want to move on when I get a tricky bit but the next lesson will have another one. Sometimes you can get a feel good factor by going back a level and completing a lesson, I recently did this with the Satriani Made Easy lesson, I got it down pretty quick and felt great about it but it shouldn't be done too often.

I hope this gives you some help.

Enjoy the journey mate smile.gif

I totaly agree with Phil here. My goal is always trying to complete a lesson. I try to choose lessons that are a challenge but not ones that would take me years to learn. I believe we can only progress in small steps. But then I try to finish them. I'm working on two lessons for about 2 months now. I can play them (IMHO) but get stuck on fast licks in both lessons. I know how to study this, slow down the tempo, never get sloppy ..... but still I can't do it. I realize I have some hand sync issues and am working on lessons to improve that. The goal remains : finishing those lessons.


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post Jun 4 2016, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 4 2016, 03:55 AM) *
Todd here smile.gif I know exactly what you mean. I'd suggest joining my SHRED BOOTCAMP. It's focused on the core fundamentals of being able to eventually play with precision, speed and grace. As you progress you get feedback and there is a Badge system that let's you know where you stand in terms of your progress. Our highest ranking member is on Lesson #30. The lessons start small and easy. Very quick. Takes about 10 minutes to learn and record your vid. Get's tough around 20, harder at 30. By that time you've developed the skills you need to play whatever you like.

If you would like to join SHRED BOOTCAMP just shoot me a personal message using the message system here on GMC and I"ll set you up smile.gif Just for a preview here is the link to all 400 plus lessons in sequence.

http://bit.ly/twtgmc

I'll be there to help focus and motivate you through the blood bath of BOOTCAMP smile.gif

Todd/Sarge


thanks todd, sent you pm for joining SHRED BOORCAMP

QUOTE (nikeman64 @ Jun 4 2016, 06:20 AM) *
I totaly agree with Phil here. My goal is always trying to complete a lesson. I try to choose lessons that are a challenge but not ones that would take me years to learn. I believe we can only progress in small steps. But then I try to finish them. I'm working on two lessons for about 2 months now. I can play them (IMHO) but get stuck on fast licks in both lessons. I know how to study this, slow down the tempo, never get sloppy ..... but still I can't do it. I realize I have some hand sync issues and am working on lessons to improve that. The goal remains : finishing those lessons.


thanks for the suggestions nikeman. If you like we can exchange our progress videos . this way we can motivate each other . at-least i will benefit from this for sure , if you think you can too let me know.

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post Jun 4 2016, 06:28 PM
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Hey man, here's my experience. I learned plenty of lessons here on GuitarMasterClass.net. I didn't always finish the lesson or remember all of it to enable me to do a REC but I did take ideas and techniques from each. I would say my sound has come from lessons I learned here. I was heavily influenced by Trond Vold in my soloing techniques because his lessons were the ones I watched and learned early on in my guitar journey.

So don't worry about not finishing the lessons. Just have a goal to bring away some ideas from each lesson you touch and you will do fine. smile.gif by the way, if you need some inspiration, I made a 30 min documentary of my guitar journey and seems to have helped a lot of musicians thus far. https://youtu.be/eIy56jxVZ_c

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