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Darius Wave
post Jun 15 2016, 03:40 PM
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Hey guys (and girls) smile.gif

Today I would like to share some tips with You. Those are tips I try to show in my lessons, because I believe they're critical, if You want to sound like a pro. This time I wanted to share them with our community through the forum.

If we look at what "Playing clean" is exactly, we realize it's a summary of a few different ascpets, like precise timing, even tone, consistent picking, correct pitch at bends and vibrato. Each of them takes time to master at pro level, yet there is one especially important in my opinion.
Why so speciall? It's a pack of good habits, every guitar player should build since the very first days of playing. As the word says...those are habits so once you get them, you just play, never thinking about "how to". Those are...


Noise removal habits



In playing any instrument, silence is same important as the notes we play. Electric guitar with distortion needs a speciall care in this case, because distortion boosts all unwanted noises. For professinals it's critical to be able to keep your instrument 100% silent in all the breaks/pauses or the spots it's simply not involved in the arrange.

Good muting habits are not only the case of breaks but essentially...all the time we play as well. Ringing low strings can affect the sustain of high notes for example. This means that very often we do have twice as much job to take care of unwanted strings, than to play the actuall note.

Making yourself to preapre both hands for natural muting at the stage of beginner education is something, that can save you years. It's easier to get some good habits from the basis, than replacing bad habits with new ones. There is only one way to make it reasonable fast...

Completely stop doing things the way you did before. Use only the new way, from now on


Yes. You need to say to yourself "I'm done with the old way". You can't just split things and use bad, old habits because things are easier (at least for now). You need to totally remove what has been done wrong, from Your playing. It will take more or less time for each of us, but there is no shortuct to pass this, and in most cases....there will be time of doubts and disappointment, cased by lack of ability to play wlll things, we were used to consider as done/learned.

Let me introduce You to a few things/habits I have got naturally in the process of learning to play the guitar. I had to analyze my playing to help other people fix some issues. I thought I would be glad if someone could show me back then...i guess things will progress even faster.

1. Always roll down the volume knob, when you finish playing/have a longer break. I use a side of my right pinky to do that, and it works like automatic nosie gate. I do this even on the shorter breaks - for example: when the band plays silently and I have to use a little more of distortion to play long sustain notes for a change with breaks. Sometimes some of the buzz or hum can break through the fx noise gate. Why to risk if that's such a simple thing to fix at the stage of guitar itself

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2. Never move your hands whiile touching strings in the breaks. It causes scratching noise or a naturall ground buzz (if you leave all strings untouched for a moment). Try to hold your hands still and rest the both on the strings, without pressing, but softly touching the strings

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3. Rest your right palm on the low strings, while you play on the high strings. Lower strings tend to vibrate and ring under notes of solo we play (for example). You may not be able to hear this on the clean tone but on the distortion it's a regular issue. It's not enough to be able to not hit low strings while playing. They start to ring due to naturall vibration of guitar body, being also "infected" by other strings vibration, through the bridge and headstock.

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4. Flatten your left index finger. This one is an excellent, natural noise gate. It can mute every string below the one, it's pressing. Shape it just like with baree chords. Keep this finger in touch with the strings through all the lick/pattern/riff you play. This way you can play some riff stuff and hit even all of 6 strings, while hearing only those, which are being pressed. IT gives a lot of comfort for the right hand. You don't have to focus it's motion on the very narrow range of just those strings want to sound. Muted strings will add some more percussive flavour, so the profit is not only at the stage of muting unwanted strings.

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5. Use a tip of any left hand finger, to mute one string above the one you play. When You hold particular shape, You can use a tip of any finger to softly touch one string above. This is additional support for right hand muting. Why? It's hard to precisely rest the palm the way it will mute all unsed low strings, and at the same time will leave other strings fully open. Using this trick makes you able to leave "one string gap" between muted low strings and played high strings. This gap is fixed by left hand so essentially no string aside the one we played, is being left untouched.

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Below You can see a visual example of how it all works as muting combo. In this example I'm playing on the B2 string. Red color are the strings being muted by right palm. Green - string muted with the bottom of flattened lef index finger. Blue - string muted with a tip of left index finger.

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As a result my sustain of B2 string has no affection by any other string.


Summary:
In most cases we can use one of above, or all at the same time. There are exceptions though. for example - thunderstuck intro by AC/DC. We are not able to constantly hold our left index finger as a "noise gate", because it's in use for exchange with open string. In such a situations it is worth trying to touch other strings with a tips of left hand fingers even for that short while, when they are on the fretboard. It gives a chance that neighbour string will not have enough time start to vibrate strong enough to interrput. For other string right palm should do the job

There are some techniques like two handed tapping, that do not allow to apply some of muting techniques from above. In this case players have found other solutions - string muter or fret wrap. There are several types on the market but remember - adding muter limits your ability to use open strings. In my opinion those should be used as a last possible rescue.


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Side note:

Though we have a few tools to mute unwanted noises, we should remember that our best friend in the fight of playing clarity, is the natural signal to noise ratio, determined by our playing abilities. Being able to have descent, strong picking and strong legato execution, increases the volume distance between the sound and the noise. That's what we should focus at first.

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post Jun 15 2016, 03:44 PM
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A killer post, complete with pix, on how to avoid nasty noise creeping in to ones playing. This is the most complete guide with illustrative pictures that I've yet seen to be honest, anywhere. If one follows these tips and using the photos as a guide, you are well on your way to beating one of the main things that ruins so many players tone, unwanted noise. Perfect hand position on the bridge IMHO smile.gif

I hope this goes in to our wiki. It's just to good not to include. I will email fran. smile.gif

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post Jun 15 2016, 03:47 PM
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Thank you Todd!

It takes time to prepare things like this. That's why I'm not able to make them as often as I would like sad.gif I hope it will be helpfull for some of our students smile.gif


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post Jun 15 2016, 04:02 PM
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Excellent, thanks Darius.

One case where I've never been able to successfully defeat string noise is when bending with vibrato. For example, if I bend up a note on the G string and I touch the D string, then apply vibrato, I'm rubbing the D string and get some noise from that. Any tips on reducing that noise?





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post Jun 15 2016, 04:31 PM
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QUOTE (Rammikin @ Jun 15 2016, 03:02 PM) *
Excellent, thanks Darius.

One case where I've never been able to successfully defeat string noise is when bending with vibrato. For example, if I bend up a note on the G string and I touch the D string, then apply vibrato, I'm rubbing the D string and get some noise from that. Any tips on reducing that noise?

I have this problem as well


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post Jun 15 2016, 04:33 PM
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I use tips of other fingers to push the string as well as the one I bend. That's the only way it works for me. The trick is to avoid it slipping under the print side of finger. It has to stay on the tip so it goes out of the range of bend and vibrated note.


One important note:
If possible I use more than one finger to push the unwanted string with their tips


Here's how it looks from my point of view:



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post Jun 15 2016, 06:14 PM
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Awesome and very complex explanations!!! I can say that I followed very strictly all these tips of yours from the first moment when we started working together and helped me a lot. Thanks to you at this moment I don't have problems with unwanted strings noise. You made all these tips to became a part of my playing and now I apply all these without thinking about them smile.gif

String muter or fret wrap you said.....yeah this is something that I can see only in pictures because you will never let me to use something like this biggrin.gif BUT....this is another reason why I think you are the best wink.gif
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post Jun 15 2016, 08:55 PM
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Yes - it has been a process and I'm proud of your results Monica smile.gif


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post Jun 15 2016, 10:06 PM
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Thank you Darius, some great, if tricky tips the

Cheers buddy, nice one wink.gif


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There is nothign tricky about that smile.gif It may look hard at the beginning but once it becomes a habit, you don't even think how to do this smile.gif


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Awesome post. Ill have it added as an eentry to our wiki soon smile.gif


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QUOTE (Darius Wave @ Jun 17 2016, 12:00 PM) *
There is nothign tricky about that smile.gif It may look hard at the beginning but once it becomes a habit, you don't even think how to do this smile.gif


I guess it's like pinch harmonics, they took me a week to be able to do them then I had to stop myself doing them laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Fran @ Jun 17 2016, 11:20 AM) *
Awesome post. Ill have it added as an eentry to our wiki soon smile.gif



Thank you Fran!


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FRANK YOU RAWK!!! Thanks for putting this in the WIKI and thanks again to Darius for this post!!! Teamwork!!! smile.gif


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Thank you Fran!



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How we could live without a teamwork right? smile.gif Thanx again for all the appreciation for my article smile.gif


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Hi Darius,

About the need to avoid getting "old bad habbits", you recently discovered one in my playing and thanks to you I can still try to fix this. Nevertheless it shouldn't have happened in the first place. That's why GMC is so cool, we have GREAT INSTRUCTORS. This article is awesome and I hope beginners and advanced players will find their way to it. smile.gif



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This is by far the most in depth look into muting unwanted string noise and hum from PUP's I have ever seen. Fantastic job Derek!
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And it's ready! smile.gif smile.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/inde...se_Removal_Tips

Let me know if you wish to add/change anything


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post Jul 4 2016, 11:52 AM
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Haven't found anything to fix! Thanx again Fran smile.gif


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