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Gabriel Leopardi
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Hi mate! Good job! This one has things to polish but it's on the way! I can feel that it's really close.

There are basically 3 elements to adjust:

- timing: You've already noticed it. You tend to rush the riffs in some sections. Focus on it.

- tuning: I notice that some chords sound with tuning / pitch issues. This can be related to the strength used when pressing the fret. Pay attention to it and check if you are not doing some kind of microbend that affect the pitches.

- Dynamics: Once you fix the previous elements, you can work on the intensities. You tend to play everything soft. Check out the original lesson and notice the use of picking intensities as an expression tool.

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Here's another work in progress take (audio only). I tried to focus on my timing and using less strength when fretting the chords. I haven't started with dynamics yet.

https://soundcloud.com/user-45599409/gmc-power-chord-workout-wip-01

Also, I don't know if I told you yet, but I bought a Helix about a month ago and I'm really happy with it. So far I've only used tones created by other people but last week I started creating my own tones and this take has my first crunch tone. I think it still sounds a bit muddy but I'm not quite sure what to do about it. Do you have any idea what could be missing? (maybe it's obvious to you but not to me yet smile.gif )

Ah and I cheated this time by using my AT10P again and putting a -1 semitone pitch adjuster in front of the signal chain. So I'm basically playing in standard tuning but recording one half step down. Not sure yet if this is a good idea or might have consequences for the overall tone.

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Hi mate, this is sounding good!

Pitch adjust always ruins a bit your tone so I would avoid it. Regarding creating your own tone, this one sounds good and it's great for a first try! It can take years to get the best from this complex devices. One think that I've learn during all these years is that it's better to keep the patches simple and try to replicate what you would use in a real live situation. That's why I prefer to use a few elements starting with a head and a cabinet, and maybe 1 pedal. Once I get the tone that I start with details. But the sounds must be great just from the amp (in this case the virtual amp).

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Hey,

I posted a REC of the Power Chords Workout. I'm starting to get sick of that riff rolleyes.gif There's probably still a lot to improve but I'm happy with the timing so far and now I need to do something else smile.gif

I will continue working on the bending lesson but I feel like investing more time into rhythm guitar right now. It's just what my heart wants smile.gif My goal with the bending lesson is to reliably hit the correct pitches the first time each time and not having to try 2-3 times to hit. But that will take several weeks I guess.

Which rhythm lesson would you suggest next? smile.gif
EDIT: What do you think about this one? https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...r2-palm-muting/
I played around with it today, naively thinking I should be able to nail this pretty fast. I quickly found out that it's quite difficult to make that riff sound tight rolleyes.gif

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Hi mate, that lesson is a great choice. If you feel motivated to play it, it's a good idea to go for it. On the other hand, you can also search for some Thrash Metal lessons around levels 3/4 that could sound more musical. But it's uo to you.

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Then I think I'll go for this one. For years I always chose the "cool" stuff first. Now I'm content to work on the fundamentals and it feels great to finally do so and make progress smile.gif

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Good move!

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Hey Gabe,

I've thought a lot about the last lesson and I've decided to work on it more. I want to be able to play it effortlessly no matter if I pick up the guitar at home or at a jam session. And I'm definitely not there yet.

So I started to analyze what I'm doing and the first thing I'd like to fix is having the G-string sometimes sounding when I play the double stops on the A and D strings. It seems I'm unable to place my left hand in a way that I can completely mute the G string in those scenarios. At least not consistently. But maybe the problem is also in the right hand? If I could strum those two strings consistently without hitting the G string the problem would be solved already.

Do you think it's a good idea to move the pick through the A and D strings until it comes to rest on the G string? This way the G string could never sound because the pick effectively mutes it. Kind of like a rest stroke in classical guitar, just with a pick and a strumming motion over two adjacent strings. It sounds like a pretty simple solution to me but I don't know if that might become a problem in the future? Maybe it's not as loose as a free strumming motion?

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Hi mate,

I couldn't understand well your question. Could you please share a video with the problem and the possible solution?

When playing lower strings I usually mute the higher ones with my index (1st finger) of the left hand as a bare. Is that what you are trying?

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I was talking about a solution using the right hand. While I think that muting with the left hand index finger is good in any case, Ben once told me in a PM that he always tries to only hit the strings that should actually ring when playing power chords. So I'm now trying two different solutions. Please see this video:



In the beginning I use more of a strumming motion that leads the pick away from the strings. That's what I've been doing so far. It's not accurate enough yet because often I hit the G string as well even when I only want to hit the A and D string.
So I thought maybe it works to borrow a bit from the rest stroke used in classical guitar and let the pick rest on the G string. This way it couldn't ring in any way. That's the second part of my video. I haven't found any references to that technique in the context of playing power chords though (and all the lessons I've watched seem to use the first one) so I wanted to ask what you think about that smile.gif

EDIT: I think I might have found an answer already. I think it would be difficult to play with the "rest stroke" using much force because the pick needs to stop before crossing the G string and that's pretty difficult to do when you want to put more dynamics into the motion.

But while experimenting with that I found out that I often hit the higher strings with my floating fingers while strumming. You can even hear that in the video. I guess I should curl my fingers inward when strumming (power) chords with distortion?

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Hi mate,

I also try to hit only the strings that I want to sound as well as mute with my left hand. I do everything possible to keep things sounding clean. About your video, I think that the first option makes more sense, but off course, the movement should be smaller if you play faster rhythms. So I would try to get used to the first option.

Watching this video in slow motion would be very inspiring:



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I think this video is even better. Much better resolution and camera angles on his picking hand.


As we're now talking about Hetfield, I notice that he holds the pick with the back of his index finger (arguably supported by his middle finger though). Somehow this feels better to me as well (without the middle finger so far). At least my hand is in a much more relaxed position and I have control over the angle of the pick, i.e. I can easily switch between hitting the string perpendicular or at an angle. When I want to hold it with the side of my index finger, I have to have an angle all the time, otherwise it feels uncomfortable because I have to bend my wrist in an uncomfortable way. What are your thoughts on this?

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There is not 1 way to hold the pick. You'll find great guitarists like Steve Morse and Van Halen, using different ways in a successful way. James is mostly a rhythm guitarist so I would take his way of holding the pick as an example if I would like to be a lead guitarist. But, if you feel that's your natural way, you can go for it.

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Hey Gabe!

How are you? Sorry for my long silence, I've had a lot going on lately. Just wanted to tell you that I'd like to continue on my own for a while. There's so much I need to sort out and I need some space for experimentation. At least my motivation is unbroken, that's about the only constant at the moment biggrin.gif

Hope you understand smile.gif

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Hi mate! Nice to hear from you! Sure, you can continue on your own! That's ok for me. By the way, you can keep using this thread anytime you want to ask any question, share new stuff and just talk about music, guitars, or whatever you want. smile.gif

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