Back To The Beginning, Do any of you ever feel like doing this? |
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Oct 10 2016, 10:28 PM
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Hello folks,
Do any of you ever feel like going back to the beginning of your guitar studies? I mean asking your instructor or getting your beginners books out and starting again add though you know nothing, just in case you've "missed something". I still don't know what chords to play in any given key and I sometimes think to myself, "maybe I skipped that info in the past". I'm not saying anyone should do this, just asking if any of you ever feel like doing it. Like learning the open chords from one key and learning why they're from that key and then learning some simple campfire type songs using those chords, then maybe the correct scale and some simple four bar solos for the songs. I know this seems like a giant step backwards but it does cross my mind sometimes. Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 11 2016, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Oct 11 2016, 08:37 PM)  Ive had to take a few steps back on occasion for sure. I also feel like quitting on an alarmingly regular basis! I dont, however, feel the need to learn campfire songs or start playing Kum ba yah  Im not going to use that kind of stuff so I dont bother with it. I dont know jack about musical theory but at this moment in time I really dont care, If it becomes relevant I can go back over it but for now I prefer to stick with the techniques involved in the music I want to play. But that said, Im no role model for learning guitar  Thing is Scott, when I'm at my mate's shop and a couple of players are in, I'd like join in with their jammin, they'll say " c'mon Phil, it's in C just go with it" and I'll say I'm too tired or got a bad finger or some other shit  I've always wanted to know theory but everything I've read hasn't sunk in. It needs to be applied and no tutors or books seem to do that. Maybe I'm misinterpreting everything???? Cheers bud Phil This post has been edited by Phil66: Oct 12 2016, 10:09 AM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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but back in the day Ive been there. My mates would usually jam on 12 bar blues type chords and solo over that in turn. 
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Oct 12 2016, 10:30 AM
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I guess it is confidence thing because I don't want to mess up and I'm embarrassed to ask "what chords are you playing?" when they've told me it's in C or E minor or whatever it is.
When I said about learning camp fire songs, it's not a desire to learn the songs themselves but to get a foundation. I sometimes feel I have never put down a good foundation to build on, I mean, I bought my first guitar and the Surfin Wth the Alien TAB book together . How deluded was I? I read THIS from cover to cover, it all made sense but it didn't stick in my head because i didn't apply it gradually from foundation work onwards. I don't want to get bogged down with theory, just understand the fundamentals. I like to understand the "rules" so I can understand how to break them  I guess I'm feeling a little lost at the moment, one of those phases I go through sometimes. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 12 2016, 10:55 AM
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Phil I find for me it's usually something in the foundational parts of guitar playing that is holding me back, it's always a technique thing for me.
For you luckily it's very easy to get to grips with the basics of scales and chord structure, then it's all just a little time with pen and paper and then spending some time analysing some songs and chord progressions. After that it's about ear training to hear and recognise the chord changes. If you delve into the Theory forum The Professor did a series of posts from the basics you can read. Message me if you want some help. This is actually something I'm quite good with!!! This post has been edited by PosterBoy: Oct 12 2016, 10:56 AM -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Oct 12 2016, 12:12 PM
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Thanks buddy
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Oct 12 2016, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Oct 12 2016, 10:30 AM) I guess it is confidence thing because I don't want to mess up and I'm embarrassed to ask "what chords are you playing?" when they've told me it's in C or E minor or whatever it is. When I said about learning camp fire songs, it's not a desire to learn the songs themselves but to get a foundation. I sometimes feel I have never put down a good foundation to build on, I mean, I bought my first guitar and the Surfin Wth the Alien TAB book together . How deluded was I? I read THIS from cover to cover, it all made sense but it didn't stick in my head because i didn't apply it gradually from foundation work onwards. I don't want to get bogged down with theory, just understand the fundamentals. I like to understand the "rules" so I can understand how to break them I guess I'm feeling a little lost at the moment, one of those phases I go through sometimes. Its easy to feel lost when you look at the amount of stuff there is to learn. Its like you're swimming along fine until you clock how big the sea is then you freak out and drown I do that!Also, I wouldn't be embarrassed to ask those guys what the chords are. I doubt very much that they would care in the slightest. I would ask them if it were me and if they slagged me off about it...... I would simply beat the shit out of them  Ive looked at the theory side before as well, it did not sink in. I would def need to go back over the total basics again, probably a few times before I understood it. --------------------  You say 'minor pentatonic ' like it's a bad thing |
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