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Gabriel Leopardi
post Oct 11 2016, 08:46 PM
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Hello friends! Welcome to the new GMC Collab!

Before we start, I'd like to share the final video of the previous collab in the case you've missed it: https://youtu.be/q9C9IYnYrZg

Isn't it awesome??? You can be part of the next one right now!


This time I've recorded a backing track in the style of Rammstein and as we've done in the previous collabs, this one will also include vocals and Kristofer Dahl (GMC Founder) has already lyrics and a raw demo!

Check it out here: Attached File  kris_vox_mix_Rammstein_collab.mp3 ( 3.78MB ) Number of downloads: 125


Lyrics:

CHORUS
Diese Shule ist so toll
(This school is such fun)

Mein Gitar spielt das Rock ’n Roll
(My guitar plays rock ’n roll)

Für alle Leute und jeden Tag
(For all students and every day)

Diese Shule ist mein alter jag
(This school is my alter ego)

VERSE
Im Abend ein Arpeggio spielen
(Play an arpeggio in the evening)

Die Medchen will von Glück da schreien:
(Girls will scream of joy:)

“Ich will einfach ein Schredder haben
(“I only want a shredder)

Und dan mich in die Nabel
(Fiddle me in my belly button)

Pill mich mit deine Schnabel”
(with your trunk”)

OUTRO
Mit mein Schnabel in dein Nabel
(with my trunk in your belly button)


We need your guitar solos, arrangements, chords, bass guitar, backing vocals or whatever you would like to add to this one!



Backing track: Attached File  Rammstein_Collab_Backing.mp3 ( 3.4MB ) Number of downloads: 127


Jamtrack: Attached File  Rammstein_Jamtrack.mp3 ( 9.42MB ) Number of downloads: 86



Tempo: 85bpm


Chord progression & Scale choices:

Chorus: Dm - Am - F - C

Verse: (Dm - Am - F - C) x 2
(Am - F - C - Dm) x 2

Outro: Riff in D Blues Scale

In order to keep things simple, you can use A minor scale to solo over this one. (For more advanced players, you can see it as D dorian over Intro and Verse and A aeolian over Chorus).

However, everything will sound better if you focus on notes from the chords while creating melodies. So a good exercise would be to work on 1 part at a time and play only chord tones at first. Then, gradually add other notes from the scale as passing notes. Does this sound difficult? Send me a PM and I'll guide you.




Over the outro you can use D blues scale:




Check the tabs: Attached File  Rammstein_for_Beginners.pdf ( 302.39K ) Number of downloads: 60



IF YOU NEED HELP TO USE ALL THIS INFO LET ME KNOW! I'M HERE TO GUIDE YOU.


IMPORTANT INFO About files required:

In order to make the things easier for compiling takes and mixing I need that each participant shares 3 files:

- Audio file with the mix of the backing and your guitar.
- Audio file only with your guitar (If possible this audio should have the same length than the mix version)
- Video of you playing the solo, and if it's not possible a picture. (Mp4 format if it's possible)

The best way to share this is compressing in a zip file to be downloaded from here or using sharing service as dropbox, wetransfer, and copying the link here.

If you decide to share your files using soundcloud please remember to "allow downloads".

Thanks!



DEADLINE: November 2nd


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This post has been edited by Kristofer Dahl: Nov 10 2016, 09:15 PM


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post Oct 11 2016, 09:19 PM
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Hi Gabriel

i'm not a ramstein specialist, but do this is in the "mind" of ??



Cheers

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post Oct 11 2016, 10:39 PM
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Awesome! So gonna be a part of this biggrin.gif

I hope you don't mind, but I feel compelled to correct those German lyrics smile.gif

Here's how I would write it:

Diese Schule ist so toll
Meine Gitarre spielt Rock'n'Roll
Für alle Leute und jeden Tag


Diese Schule ist von meinem Schlag
(Now you used "jag" here which doesn't translate to what you want but has in itself only a single meaning, being a shortened (slang) version of "ich jage" which means "I hunt". Considering you wanted to talk about your alter ego, I propose the phrase "Diese Schule ist von meinem Schlag" which means something like "This school is of my kind". "vom gleichen Schlag" translates to "to be cast in the same mold" or "to be tarred with the same brush". Maybe that's an acceptable change for you? smile.gif )


Am Abend ein Arpeggio spielen
Die Mädchen werden voll Glück schreien:
"Ich will einfach einen Shredder haben
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...


I'm not sure what to do about the last two lines. I get the general idea but in the current version it doesn't make sense in German smile.gif
To make a better version I need to know what exactly you mean with "trunk". I guess it's a word play and is certainly meant to have a vulgar connotation here but I'd rather ask because I'm not an English native speaker. I'm sure there are many funny things we can do with those two lines biggrin.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 10:52 PM
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I'll have a go wink.gif


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post Oct 12 2016, 08:05 AM
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I think this one has some great potential - as the backing track does not contain anything complex and is open for pretty much any type of idea. Give it a shot. Even if you are a complete beginner! We will give you suggestions along the way (that's the best and fastest way to improve!) Please remember you are here to learn, not to deliver something perfect/amazing.

QUOTE (Wyverex @ Oct 11 2016, 11:39 PM) *
I hope you don't mind, but I feel compelled to correct those German lyrics smile.gif


You are aware I have a professor's degree in Antique German? These lyrics represent how German would be, if completely unaltered by modern civilisation. So you could say my lyrics represent German in its purest form.

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Here you can see a similar track I did in the past:



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post Oct 12 2016, 08:38 AM
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I realize now that my premature comment was misguided and bordering on sacrilege. Your video clearly shows your deep mastery of the German language biggrin.gif Vergebt mir meinen tölpelhaften Kommentar, Professor Dahl! tongue.gif
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post Oct 12 2016, 09:03 AM
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Das german from Kris is spot on! I just wrote a letter to my boss in this ancient unaltered German, asking for a raise. And I got it!
That being said: I'm in.


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post Oct 12 2016, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Oct 12 2016, 10:03 AM) *
Das german from Kris is spot on! I just wrote a letter to my boss in this ancient unaltered German, asking for a raise. And I got it!
That being said: I'm in.


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif Your boss was most likely deeply impressed.

@ Wyverex I am glad we have sorted this - now we can proceed to playing guitar in its purest form tongue.gif

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Oct 11 2016, 10:19 PM) *
Hi Gabriel

i'm not a ramstein specialist, but do this is in the "mind" of ??



Cheers

Laurent


This sounds good and I have not got any complaints. Your left hand seem really relaxed which is excellent for performance.

If you want to take this to the next level from a songwriting perspective, here are two suggestions:

* Have much much longer pauses/silences between your phrases, this usually forces people to get more melodic (and it is also more difficult than jamming away).

* Even better: jam to the backing with vocals. If you can find good melodies that work with the vocals, they are almsot guaranteed to be featured in the final mix.


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post Oct 12 2016, 12:07 PM
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I'm in!!
Bass and Guitar again!! (With much better timing!! wink.gif )
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post Oct 12 2016, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Oct 12 2016, 01:07 PM) *
I'm in!!
Bass and Guitar again!! (With much better timing!! wink.gif )
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hehe awesome to have you in! biggrin.gif


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post Oct 12 2016, 09:30 PM
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Hey guys!! It's great to see so many inputs for this one! I can suspect that we will create a very cool track together. smile.gif



QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Oct 12 2016, 05:03 AM) *
Das german from Kris is spot on! I just wrote a letter to my boss in this ancient unaltered German, asking for a raise. And I got it!
That being said: I'm in.



hehehe great to see you back here man! smile.gif

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Oct 11 2016, 05:19 PM) *
Hi Gabriel

i'm not a ramstein specialist, but do this is in the "mind" of ??



Cheers

Laurent



Hey Laurent! Thanks for this early take! Kris has given you some cool tips to polish this one.

Can't wait to hear your update!


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post Oct 13 2016, 08:14 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Oct 12 2016, 08:05 AM) *
Here you can see a similar track I did in the past:

aw man, that is excellent biggrin.gif really cool video and those vocals are killer ohmy.gif


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QUOTE (bleez @ Oct 13 2016, 09:14 AM) *
aw man, that is excellent biggrin.gif really cool video and those vocals are killer ohmy.gif


Thanks man, that song was so much fun indeed! biggrin.gif


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post Oct 13 2016, 08:55 AM
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Hello guys,

I have a question. Why is it d dorian?

Because there is no G chords in it.

Greetz tim


Or is it because the c chords is the raised 6th of d?

No. Im sorry. That would be B
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QUOTE (Gitarrero @ Oct 12 2016, 09:03 AM) *
Das german from Kris is spot on! I just wrote a letter to my boss in this ancient unaltered German, asking for a raise. And I got it!
That being said: I'm in.

How could you not join this one mate??
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QUOTE (tflava @ Oct 13 2016, 08:55 AM) *
Hello guys,

I have a question. Why is it d dorian?

Because there is no G chords in it.

Greetz tim


Or is it because the c chords is the raised 6th of d?

No. Im sorry. That would be B

Hey Tim, it can be seen as D Dorian because all the Chords used are from the C scale (C Maj, D min, E min, F Maj, G Maj, A min, B Dim) but because we are using D min as the root for the song it becomes D Dorian as the 2nd Mode of the C Major Scale. C Ionian, D Dorian, E Phrygian, F Lydian, G Mixolydian, A Aolian, B Locrian.
Hope that helps explain it!
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Hi Tim,

SJ post is right however I understand that you could feel a bit confused since the progression could be part of both D minor or D dorian. At first sight I also though that this was in D minor however when I've started jamming with D minor I noted that there was something that didn't work.

My ear was the "judge" saying that the minor 6th of D minor didn't sound cool while the major 6th sounded better. Try it by yourself.

When playing the progression I've noted that the overall feeling of the verse is in C major, and the fact that the chorus is in A minor makes everything sound more related to C major (or D Dorian), instead of D minor.

There are different levels of modal analysis. We can see a progression as a whole, or we can see each chord as an entity and refer to a mode that is being played over it. At the same time, if we focus on chord tones, all the other notes from the chromatic scale can be used as tensions and passing notes.

Let me know if this clarifies a bit everything.




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I EVAPORATED at "fiddle in my belly button with your trunk". I'm in!


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QUOTE (Doug Lane @ Oct 20 2016, 10:59 AM) *
I EVAPORATED at "fiddle in my belly button with your trunk". I'm in!

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QUOTE (Doug Lane @ Oct 20 2016, 05:59 AM) *
I EVAPORATED at "fiddle in my belly button with your trunk". I'm in!



Awesome!!! smile.gif


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Hey friends! Feel free to start sharing your only guitar takes in order to let me give shape to the song/mix.


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