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post Oct 18 2016, 10:35 AM
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I'll go step by step, first check this video a few seconds on how these delays sound (they're the most popular ones these days);



So you'll notice there is degredation (frequency, distortion...) on each repeat that sounds very pleasing aside the regular volume drop. This is the nature of bucketbrigade delays, it was invented to mimic tape but in time accepted to have its own thing going on among guitar players.

I checked both amplitube and bias demos and this degredation isn't happening with their "bucketbrigade analog" delays! most are like digital with less highs...this isn't a bad thing (many likes digital delays) but I'm simply one of those who likes more vintage I guess...

I asked about this in a forum, apparently such delays are very important on dubstep music (you learn something everyday) biggrin.gif they gave me advices and non of them was marketed for guitar players...figured the reason why I wasn't happy with the delays I had as I usually prefer delays to reverb whenever possible.

Bad news continues; the only freeware is this; http://rekkerd.org/arcdev-noise-industries-releases-et-301/ its windows 32-bit only and not so good to my ears but better than noting I guess...someone also recommended VoS NastyDLY but to me its not whats needed...



The affordable one is this; http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD006 apparently its some sort of a legend plug-in among some users. Its pretty good actually but 40 dolars...



other suggestions given to me; echoboy (I tried this and didn't like it), bloom, relayer, NI Replika XT...Sure can be demoed but be careful with price+cpu usage.

upcoming plug-ins are D16's Repeater (good but probably expensive) and the guy from Valhalla is currently coding one (worth waiting, his reverbs are good and affordable).

Let me know if you guys have advices for alternatives (I don't have every amp sim. so I might have missed something)

Keep in mind, both the pedals on that video are 150 bucks in USA but also there's the ibanez mini delay that gets good reviews and its 100 dollars... If you're getting you tone (specially distortion) outside the computer (amp, processor, pedals) might be worth getting one...

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post Oct 18 2016, 09:54 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to make such a detailed post smile.gif Very informative. I think we should have an FX WIKI!

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QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 18 2016, 05:35 AM) *
I'll go step by step, first check this video a few seconds on how these delays sound (they're the most popular ones these days);



So you'll notice there is degredation (frequency, distortion...) on each repeat that sounds very pleasing aside the regular volume drop. This is the nature of bucketbrigade delays, it was invented to mimic tape but in time accepted to have its own thing going on among guitar players.

I checked both amplitube and bias demos and this degredation isn't happening with their "bucketbrigade analog" delays! most are like digital with less highs...this isn't a bad thing (many likes digital delays) but I'm simply one of those who likes more vintage I guess...

I asked about this in a forum, apparently such delays are very important on dubstep music (you learn something everyday) biggrin.gif they gave me advices and non of them was marketed for guitar players...figured the reason why I wasn't happy with the delays I had as I usually prefer delays to reverb whenever possible.

Bad news continues; the only freeware is this; http://rekkerd.org/arcdev-noise-industries-releases-et-301/ its windows 32-bit only and not so good to my ears but better than noting I guess...someone also recommended VoS NastyDLY but to me its not whats needed...



The affordable one is this; http://www.audiodamage.com/effects/product.php?pid=AD006 apparently its some sort of a legend plug-in among some users. Its pretty good actually but 40 dolars...



other suggestions given to me; echoboy (I tried this and didn't like it), bloom, relayer, NI Replika XT...Sure can be demoed but be careful with price+cpu usage.

upcoming plug-ins are D16's Repeater (good but probably expensive) and the guy from Valhalla is currently coding one (worth waiting, his reverbs are good and affordable).

Let me know if you guys have advices for alternatives (I don't have every amp sim. so I might have missed something)

Keep in mind, both the pedals on that video are 150 bucks in USA but also there's the ibanez mini delay that gets good reviews and its 100 dollars... If you're getting you tone (specially distortion) outside the computer (amp, processor, pedals) might be worth getting one...


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post Oct 18 2016, 10:24 PM
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How is it with your processor?

I noticed line 6 DL4 is capable of this although was built in 2000, a friend of mine bought it recently and I was very impressed for something designed so old. That audio damage delay is also considered an old plug-in (2008).

This is very interesting to me as its not a technological limitation but simply not many cared for implementing biggrin.gif

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post Oct 19 2016, 06:31 AM
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Here's a tape delay vst plugin I wrote years ago that was popular, but I got busy with Crystal and Spectrasonics and stopped updating it: http://www.greenoak.com/DelayifierWin.zip. I haven't updated it in years, so it's only available as 32 bit and it's intended to be used as a send effect, so put it on an aux channel in your DAW and control the mix by varying the amount you send to that aux channel.



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post Oct 19 2016, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE (Rammikin @ Oct 19 2016, 05:31 AM) *
Here's a tape delay vst plugin I wrote years ago that was popular, but I got busy with Crystal and Spectrasonics and stopped updating it: http://www.greenoak.com/DelayifierWin.zip. I haven't updated it in years, so it's only available as 32 bit and it's intended to be used as a send effect, so put it on an aux channel in your DAW and control the mix by varying the amount you send to that aux channel.


This is pretty good!

I can see why it was popular; the horizontal time controls with panners, duck/flutter, sync. ... it didn't take to long for me to adjust a nice fattening setting smile.gif


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Thanks. If there's sufficient interest, I could look into resurrecting it.



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QUOTE (Rammikin @ Oct 19 2016, 05:05 PM) *
Thanks. If there's sufficient interest, I could look into resurrecting it.


Let me motivate you by sharing a link biggrin.gif have you heard of kvr developer challenge?

http://www.kvraudio.com/news/kvr-developer...mm-34599/0/1279

I'm not sure if you have the time to slap a new GUI and make it 64bit compatible (nor have read the rules of the challenge) but with some work I believe you have a chance.

For example in 2009 FerricTDS won first place (you can see the previous winners from the first link); http://www.kvraudio.com/kvr-developer-challenge/2009/ its a cool plug-in but pass the GUI I don't think its anymore complex than yours.

They make the competition every 2 years now anyway, give some thought I'll help as a beta tester (I had experience with a few developers in the not so distant past) as much as possible if needed smile.gif


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post Oct 21 2016, 12:29 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Oct 18 2016, 10:54 PM) *
Thanks for taking the time to make such a detailed post smile.gif Very informative. I think we should have an FX WIKI!

Todd



Closest we have is the Gear wiki portal, which has reviews and article regarding not just FX.
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/index.php/Portal:Gear

I'll add this there smile.gif

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post Oct 23 2016, 05:32 PM
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Ah cool I keep forgeting about that, definitly something to take care if site gets updated someday.


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