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KenA
post Nov 19 2016, 12:09 PM
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Hi guys n girls,

Maybe what I'm asking for is something a bit hard to achieve: "up to 15W valve amp with great clean sound".

Normally the headroom of a small amp is low so it distorts the sound pretty fast.

I did see some vidz on YT from several amp makers, but the way I understand when it comes to buy gear is that the best thing to do is to try the gear in real. Unfortunately it's hard to do it here where I live so if someone has some real experience with those small beasts then please let me know.

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post Nov 19 2016, 03:23 PM
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Fender Princeton Reverb. Hard pressed to find anything better at a 'decent' price.
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/guitar-amplif...uct-217200.html
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/guitar-amplif...2272000000.html

If you're willing to drop some dough ...
Hi-Watt (20 watt combo) http://www.hiwatt.co.uk/products/tube-seri...iwatt-t20-combo
Reeves http://www.reevesamps.com/amplifiers/reeves-custom-12/
The videos tend to focus on these amp's gainier side but they can play clean at relatively high volume.

Used or vintage: Music Man 110 or 112 RD. These are hybrid amps. Tubes for the power amp (6l6) and a SS pre-amp. *Great amps!

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post Nov 19 2016, 03:59 PM
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Hi klasaine,

The 65 Princeton looks like a good one!

Although this one is not a tube amp, it looks like a good candidate (DV Micro 50): http://www.dvmark.it/product_detail.php?id=87
but again, i'll probably will not be able to test it before buying it :-(

Just heard the Music Man Rd112 Reissue and it's just great: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZNMTWXo-eM

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post Nov 19 2016, 05:19 PM
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I wouldn't have been able to offer anything better so well said klassaine! The music man is a fine choice to be sure. The DVmark that is a transistor amp won't have quite the same kick imho, but is still a nice amp smile.gif



QUOTE (klasaine @ Nov 19 2016, 10:23 AM) *
Fender Princeton Reverb. Hard pressed to find anything better at a 'decent' price.
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/guitar-amplif...uct-217200.html
http://shop.fender.com/en-US/guitar-amplif...2272000000.html

If you're willing to drop some dough ...
Hi-Watt (20 watt combo) http://www.hiwatt.co.uk/products/tube-seri...iwatt-t20-combo
Reeves http://www.reevesamps.com/amplifiers/reeves-custom-12/
The videos tend to focus on these amp's gainier side but they can play clean at relatively high volume.

Used or vintage: Music Man 110 or 112 RD. These are hybrid amps. Tubes for the power amp (6l6) and a SS pre-amp. *Great amps!


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post Nov 19 2016, 06:21 PM
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The DV Mark gear has a great reputation but I have not tried any of their guitar amps yet. The bass amps are used by almost everybody now. Small, light, powerful with decent tone ... but expensive.

Another choice, though solid state is Quilter ... http://www.quilterlabs.com/index.php/produ...s/101-mini-head
Small, powerful and light with pretty good tone and they stay CLEAN all the way up.

But if your sold on the 'valve' thing, I'd say the Princeton (or even a Deluxe, 22 watts) is your best choice.

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post Nov 20 2016, 08:38 AM
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Quilter looks good along with the DV.

Just found this one, Ethos Clean: http://www.customtonesinc.com/amps.html , it's analog circuitry, no tubes, but does sound good.


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post Nov 20 2016, 09:15 AM
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@KenA
Check out the Peavey Piranah 20w tube micro head. Yeah I know it's a high gain micro head but the cleans sounds really cool as well.
Pretty good for the price.
Namm 2016:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhnrCE0Gk8g

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post Nov 20 2016, 09:24 AM
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Hi STENCH,

Hum, that one although has some clean on the crunch channel, i'm not sure. thanks for the tip anyways. By checking the 6505 I got to the Joyo BanTamPs series and all the 6 models have a dedicated clean channel. Maybe the Bluejay model would do it?


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post Nov 20 2016, 04:11 PM
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The Ethos stuff is great. I like that they now have 'cleaner' versions.
Having said that, it really depends on what type of clean you want. As cool as the Ethos is, it's a darker and (IMO) flatter clean tone than the classic Fender clean sound (which I usually prefer). A Fender Twin, Deluxe or Princeton is pretty much ground zero for a clean tone reference.

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post Nov 20 2016, 04:15 PM
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Agree klasaine, I too prefer the Fender cleans. I just wish they have the Princeton on head version. ( although I could use a head kit version and convert it )


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post Nov 20 2016, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE (KenA @ Nov 20 2016, 08:15 AM) *
Agree klasaine, I too prefer the Fender cleans. I just wish they have the Princeton on head version. ( although I could use a head kit version and convert it )


In the 60s and 70s Fender made head versions of the Bassman (no reverb). Silverface and blackface. The Bassmans are 35 watt amps but are relatively inefficient, which means not too loud (compared to say a Vox AC of the same wattage). I don't know how readily available they are in Brasil but they did make a lot of them for export.

Silverface bassman ... https://www.google.com/search?q=blackface+b...ce+bassman+head
Blackface bassman ... https://www.google.com/search?q=blackface+b...ZmVAC4Q_AUICCgD

*In 2000 (maybe '99) I spent 4 or 5 days in Curitiba. Beautiful city!



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post Nov 20 2016, 06:04 PM
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wow, good to know you were around here at that time ... still a good place to be, but just like let's say the good and old Sao Paulo, it's suffering from migration of people from many regions of the country ( there are good aspects and the bad ones also, like increase of criminality )

if I really search here, I'll may find a Princeton or Bassman head somewhere, but will be very pricey ... anyways I'm just keeping my eyes open and in case some good one appears...

** 1986, I've been to a few places in the great LA area: Laguna Hills, Mission Viejo, etc ... I remember the nice girls all around, haha ... good times ... the 80ies ... odd hair style!!!

This one is new to me, but really sound good: Old School 11 from Mad Professor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJrRD3K55U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLcpTlC-cE


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post Nov 20 2016, 08:38 PM
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QUOTE (KenA @ Nov 20 2016, 10:04 AM) *
This one is new to me, but really sound good: Old School 11 from Mad Professor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aJrRD3K55U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVLcpTlC-cE


The 'old school 11' isn't made anymore (and was expensive). Also, it's only clean at low volume. It's like a 1950s era Fender 'champ'. Sparkly clean at low volume and a lot of (beautiful) grind when turned up. Think Neil Young.


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