Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Boss Gt-1 Review
Mertay
post Dec 11 2016, 03:54 PM
Post #1


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 2.931
Joined: 27-May 13
From: Turkey / izmir
Member No.: 18.294



My quick GT-1 review;

Hardware/software; Was better than expected, feels great and durable + easy to navigate (didn't need to dig deep in the manual when adjusting from the unit). The software is also great, when working as a soundcard just fire the tone studio and open any website/mp3 etc. player and start jamming right away (no DAW needed).

FX button effects; Didn't notice any digital distortion or harshness with any effects, still sounds processor-like as expected but very workable (much better when connected to an amp).

Pedal fx; Impressed, wahwah's sound very good.

OD/DS; Most are very good, specially boss based pedals. Stuff like tubescreamer, RAT aren't really there and needs a bit too much work to adjust compared if you're familiar with the analog pedals.

Preamps; Worst side of the unit, I didn't use analyze software but pretty sure they breakup the same only eq and gain range responce is different from model to model. Aside 1-2 of them (like the recto), they don't sound any bigger than the pedals as should've been like in analog world. I mostly prefered a clean-to-slight breakup setting from the amp and used driven pedals when needed. The cab.s were as expected since not ir's...overall I'll just say they work but don't expect more (probably with a soft clipping saturation effect on the main output menu could make them sound much better, wish boss would have added something like that...)

Delay/Reverb; Delays are ok, no complaints (or praises) and the terra covers a lot of ground when needed (on the reverb section there is a second delay option if double delay is needed). The reverbs though has to be dialed in pretty extreme if someone wants the effect to be obvious to the listener.

Main output; When "small amp" option is selected, it sounded pretty good with a small blackstar idcore amp.

There is also output eq'ing for every patch, after a lot of play time with the unit my opinion is its best to keep the output option "line" for both computer and bigger amps and try to get the balance from the fx. If you start with decreased mid.s/increased bass etc. (like you would with a Mesa Mark V for example) most of the time the result gets harsh/bassy while adjusting.

Again though not analyzed, it feels like there's always a C type filter going on with the unit. In other words, its as if an engineer eq'd your dry sound for a mix. Don't try battling it when adjusting (specially listening the unit solo), this actually helps when played in a band or over backing tracks. Great idea for beginners but I wish they left a bit more room for the experienced users...

This post has been edited by Mertay: Dec 11 2016, 03:57 PM


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Todd Simpson
post Dec 11 2016, 06:36 PM
Post #2


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 14.874
Joined: 23-December 09
From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Member No.: 8.794



Great review! I agree all the way on the tones. I've never been that impressed with COSM AMP modelling, even on the flagship unit, especially compared to units like the 11 Rack in particular. I put them side to side in Guitar Center and it wasn't even close. The cosm amps all sounded very similar in terms of gain structure, and all sounded a bit fake imho sad.gif Please forgive me, those of you who love your GTXXX etc. smile.gif

I would have liked to see a video included as part of the review of course, but that's just me smile.gif I like videos. Maybe you, playing the unit, showing us the software, giving some tone examples so we can hear what you are talking about instead of just reading it and such. It would help me certainly smile.gif



GT1 VS GT100



QUOTE (Mertay @ Dec 11 2016, 10:54 AM) *
My quick GT-1 review;

Hardware/software; Was better than expected, feels great and durable + easy to navigate (didn't need to dig deep in the manual when adjusting from the unit). The software is also great, when working as a soundcard just fire the tone studio and open any website/mp3 etc. player and start jamming right away (no DAW needed).

FX button effects; Didn't notice any digital distortion or harshness with any effects, still sounds processor-like as expected but very workable (much better when connected to an amp).

Pedal fx; Impressed, wahwah's sound very good.

OD/DS; Most are very good, specially boss based pedals. Stuff like tubescreamer, RAT aren't really there and needs a bit too much work to adjust compared if you're familiar with the analog pedals.

Preamps; Worst side of the unit, I didn't use analyze software but pretty sure they breakup the same only eq and gain range responce is different from model to model. Aside 1-2 of them (like the recto), they don't sound any bigger than the pedals as should've been like in analog world. I mostly prefered a clean-to-slight breakup setting from the amp and used driven pedals when needed. The cab.s were as expected since not ir's...overall I'll just say they work but don't expect more (probably with a soft clipping saturation effect on the main output menu could make them sound much better, wish boss would have added something like that...)

Delay/Reverb; Delays are ok, no complaints (or praises) and the terra covers a lot of ground when needed (on the reverb section there is a second delay option if double delay is needed). The reverbs though has to be dialed in pretty extreme if someone wants the effect to be obvious to the listener.

Main output; When "small amp" option is selected, it sounded pretty good with a small blackstar idcore amp.

There is also output eq'ing for every patch, after a lot of play time with the unit my opinion is its best to keep the output option "line" for both computer and bigger amps and try to get the balance from the fx. If you start with decreased mid.s/increased bass etc. (like you would with a Mesa Mark V for example) most of the time the result gets harsh/bassy while adjusting.

Again though not analyzed, it feels like there's always a C type filter going on with the unit. In other words, its as if an engineer eq'd your dry sound for a mix. Don't try battling it when adjusting (specially listening the unit solo), this actually helps when played in a band or over backing tracks. Great idea for beginners but I wish they left a bit more room for the experienced users...


This post has been edited by Todd Simpson: Dec 12 2016, 03:42 AM


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Mertay
post Dec 11 2016, 10:05 PM
Post #3


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 2.931
Joined: 27-May 13
From: Turkey / izmir
Member No.: 18.294



Hey Todd,

First thanks for the responce and the adding video comment smile.gif yeah it was just a quickie incase any GMC members are/would consider it. A friend of mine bought it and it was mostly me playing similar riff's, tweaking parameters for a few hours. Maybe a video would have been informative but certainly boring biggrin.gif

To be honest I left the unit with mixed feelings. Aside the amps, one really gets a lot for 200 dolars (discounts can be found in USA) including ease of use...I'm sure we would have loved it if it was released back in the 90's biggrin.gif

To generalize further, I felt the amps are like the freeware plug-ins we suggest here (not the best ones from bigger companys but the cpu friendly type). Great for non musicians but not for guys like us. I did read giging musicians usually combine/mix 2 COSM amps within the bigger boss models but I'm not sure if its true or could make a big difference.

As much as I disliked the solo sound feeling filtered and lacking natural harmonics, it fits quicker/more acceptable inside a denser sounding backing track. Aside for beginners, might even work better than most processors with a terrible sounding PA system...

Seems designed for guys who doesn't like tweaking, I could suggest it as a first ever processor (or small travel type unit) but its definitly not an upgrade from something more expensive in the current market.

I also want to demo the Zoom G5N badly when it arrives here smile.gif I have higher hopes for its amps but that unit has its own downsides as far as I've read on forums.

This post has been edited by Mertay: Dec 11 2016, 10:09 PM


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Todd Simpson
post Dec 11 2016, 10:16 PM
Post #4


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 14.874
Joined: 23-December 09
From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Member No.: 8.794



Yeah, it's a starter unit for sure smile.gif But it's quite cheap on sale so it's good way to get started in home recording for not much money, but honestly for the SAME MONEY You can get a USED 11 RACK!!!! Which is a DIGI 02 (Hardware Pro Tools Interface with XLR/Phantom Power/7 inputs/etc.)and a killer guitar processor that sounds amazing. E.G. The amps sound like real amps, and the pedals sound like real pedals. So in light of that, I can't see why anyone would get this over a used 11R. I just don't see it. But that's just me smile.gif I"m sure there are folks that LOVE These things! To each his own!!

Todd


QUOTE (Mertay @ Dec 11 2016, 05:05 PM) *
Hey Todd,

First thanks for the responce and the adding video comment smile.gif yeah it was just a quickie incase any GMC members are/would consider it. A friend of mine bought it and it was mostly me playing similar riff's, tweaking parameters for a few hours. Maybe a video would have been informative but certainly boring biggrin.gif

To be honest I left the unit with mixed feelings. Aside the amps, one really gets a lot for 200 dolars (discounts can be found in USA) including ease of use...I'm sure we would have loved it if it was released back in the 90's biggrin.gif

To generalize further, I felt the amps are like the freeware plug-ins we suggest here (not the best ones from bigger companys but the cpu friendly type). Great for non musicians but not for guys like us. I did read giging musicians usually combine/mix 2 COSM amps within the bigger boss models but I'm not sure if its true or could make a big difference.

As much as I disliked the solo sound feeling filtered and lacking natural harmonics, it fits quicker/more acceptable inside a denser sounding backing track. Aside for beginners, might even work better than most processors with a terrible sounding PA system...

Seems designed for guys who doesn't like tweaking, I could suggest it as a first ever processor (or small travel type unit) but its definitly not an upgrade from something more expensive in the current market.

I also want to demo the Zoom G5N badly when it arrives here smile.gif I have higher hopes for its amps but that unit has its own downsides as far as I've read on forums.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Phil66
post Dec 11 2016, 10:24 PM
Post #5


Learning Apprentice Player
*

Group: Members
Posts: 4.300
Joined: 5-July 14
From: The Black Country, England
Member No.: 19.975



Is the review of the Boss GT001 or the GT1?? Todd's video is for the GT001 but Mertay's review says GT1. HERE is the GT1

I've got a GT001 and a GT100 and they are nice simple units to get to grips with. My ears aren't that good at the moment and I don't hear much gear to compare.

I'd like to hear what you're talking about though Todd. Any chance of a direct comparison with same guitar etc?

Cheers folks


--------------------

GMC CERTIFICATE

“Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in installments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.”
Israelmore Ayivor
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Mertay
post Dec 11 2016, 10:40 PM
Post #6


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 2.931
Joined: 27-May 13
From: Turkey / izmir
Member No.: 18.294



QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 11 2016, 09:24 PM) *
...


Hey Phil66,

Yeah we're talking GT-1;

The new GT-1 uses the same sound engine as the bigger models, basically it has the same sound quality but carrys lesser options for sound tweaking or routing.


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Phil66
post Dec 11 2016, 11:12 PM
Post #7


Learning Apprentice Player
*

Group: Members
Posts: 4.300
Joined: 5-July 14
From: The Black Country, England
Member No.: 19.975



I thought so. Todd's video is for the GT001 though.


--------------------

GMC CERTIFICATE

“Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in installments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.”
Israelmore Ayivor
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Todd Simpson
post Dec 12 2016, 03:46 AM
Post #8


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 14.874
Joined: 23-December 09
From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Member No.: 8.794



my bad! Fixed that smile.gif GT1 vid and a GT1 vs GT100 shootout vid smile.gif


QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 11 2016, 06:12 PM) *
I thought so. Todd's video is for the GT001 though.



Here is the GT1 and GT100.

I don't own any of these units. I once owned one of the variants with knobs (ME25) but sold it as I just didn't like COSM modelling sad.gif
Here is my playthrough of the old one I had with COSM



QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 11 2016, 05:24 PM) *
Is the review of the Boss GT001 or the GT1?? Todd's video is for the GT001 but Mertay's review says GT1. HERE is the GT1

I've got a GT001 and a GT100 and they are nice simple units to get to grips with. My ears aren't that good at the moment and I don't hear much gear to compare.

I'd like to hear what you're talking about though Todd. Any chance of a direct comparison with same guitar etc?

Cheers folks


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Fran
post Dec 12 2016, 12:18 PM
Post #9


Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.953
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Spain
Member No.: 3.338



Great! I missed gear reviews cool.gif


--------------------
Guitars:
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400
Amp:
Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab
Effects:
Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70
Recording:
Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D

GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia!
Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI!
Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Mertay
post Dec 14 2016, 09:03 PM
Post #10


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 2.931
Joined: 27-May 13
From: Turkey / izmir
Member No.: 18.294



On various forums few has started to sell their units mainly cause of the amp sounds, most are still enjoying though specially ones who gig and want to carry something small.

I checked and realized the bigger models have more parameters for the amps, might explain the tones I liked on youtube or from Phil66 at times.

Aside this, I talked to my friend a few minutes ago asking hows he liking his new gt-1 after a few days. Basically liked the idea of starting to jam right away (again, no DAW needed) and the software control on the unit is really fast when tweaking is needed. For petrucci stuff he just cracked the recto amp and said it was close enough to enjoy. He usually brings work to home so out of his limited time to relieve stress this really worked for him. I said whatever device makes you play more is the best device there is wink.gif

Funny, he has gear worth almost a small house but enjoying a 200 dolar processor right now laugh.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Fran
post Dec 18 2016, 05:43 PM
Post #11


Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.953
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Spain
Member No.: 3.338



Though I'd add this one to the wiki cool.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/wiki/inde...oss_Gt-1_Review


--------------------
Guitars:
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400
Amp:
Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab
Effects:
Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70
Recording:
Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D

GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia!
Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI!
Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Mertay
post Dec 19 2016, 07:52 PM
Post #12


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 2.931
Joined: 27-May 13
From: Turkey / izmir
Member No.: 18.294



QUOTE (Fran @ Dec 18 2016, 04:43 PM) *


Thanks Fran smile.gif

By the way, when googled "ts9 vs ts9dx" guitarmasterclass shows as the 4th result! ohmy.gif So not only our friends here but reviews seem to be able to reach all the guitar community though here which is pretty cool smile.gif


--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Todd Simpson
post Dec 22 2016, 02:44 AM
Post #13


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 14.874
Joined: 23-December 09
From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Member No.: 8.794



True smile.gif But for about $300 or less you can get a used 11 Rack which has some really great amp sounds a decent amount of fx. Not a ton of fx, but enough to gig and record. It's become the standard by which I judge any processor below $500. So far, I have found nothing that even comes close at that price point in terms of accurate guitar amps. Do I wish it had more cabs? sure. Do I wish it supported imported cabs? Sure. Still for the price, given all the variables, it's still just the best bang for the buck IMHO. I'm even looking out for a second one just in case my primary unit dies. It's not just a great processor that requires no daw, it's also a great recording interfaces with 7 inputs up to 192khz.

Not to say everyone should sell all their gear and get what I have. But anyone thinking about spending a few hundred bucks on gear that isn't a guitar, could do far worse. Recording interface and processor in one that sounds just pro as heck. smile.gif I"ve tried a TON of gear and I kept the 11.

Todd


QUOTE (Mertay @ Dec 14 2016, 04:03 PM) *
On various forums few has started to sell their units mainly cause of the amp sounds, most are still enjoying though specially ones who gig and want to carry something small.

I checked and realized the bigger models have more parameters for the amps, might explain the tones I liked on youtube or from Phil66 at times.

Aside this, I talked to my friend a few minutes ago asking hows he liking his new gt-1 after a few days. Basically liked the idea of starting to jam right away (again, no DAW needed) and the software control on the unit is really fast when tweaking is needed. For petrucci stuff he just cracked the recto amp and said it was close enough to enjoy. He usually brings work to home so out of his limited time to relieve stress this really worked for him. I said whatever device makes you play more is the best device there is wink.gif

Funny, he has gear worth almost a small house but enjoying a 200 dolar processor right now laugh.gif



--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Fran
post Dec 26 2016, 11:24 PM
Post #14


Learning Rock Star - Wiki Coordinator
Group Icon

Group: GMC Senior
Posts: 7.953
Joined: 20-November 07
From: Spain
Member No.: 3.338



QUOTE (Mertay @ Dec 19 2016, 08:52 PM) *
By the way, when googled "ts9 vs ts9dx" guitarmasterclass shows as the 4th result! ohmy.gif So not only our friends here but reviews seem to be able to reach all the guitar community though here which is pretty cool smile.gif


That's great to hear smile.gif There's SO MUCH knowledge on these boards.


--------------------
Guitars:
Fender American Deluxe Stratocaster, Ibanez RG2570MZ, Epiphone SG G-400
Amp:
Vox AC4TVH head + V112TV cab
Effects:
Vox Satchurator, Vox Time Machine, Dunlop CryBaby, Boss MT-2, Boss CE-5, Boss TU-2, Boss ME-70
Recording:
Line-6 POD X3 + FBV-Express, Pandora PX5D

GMC wants YOU to take part in our Guitar-Wikipedia!
Have a good time reading great articles and writing your own with us in our GUITAR WIKI!
Share your playing and get Pro-advice from our Instructors: Join REC
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Todd Simpson
post Dec 27 2016, 04:31 AM
Post #15


GMC:er
Group Icon

Group: GMC Instructor
Posts: 14.874
Joined: 23-December 09
From: Atlanta, Georgia, USA
Member No.: 8.794



Well said!! I often notice the same thing, I'll google something and it comes up in the GMC forums!

Todd
QUOTE (Fran @ Dec 26 2016, 06:24 PM) *
That's great to hear smile.gif There's SO MUCH knowledge on these boards.



--------------------
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


RSS Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 24th August 2017 - 04:13 AM