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post Apr 26 2017, 11:40 PM
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Richard Spencer claims credit for coining the term "alt right" in around 2010 as the name for his on-line journal.

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post Apr 27 2017, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 26 2017, 11:40 PM) *
Richard Spencer claims credit for coining the term "alt right" in around 2010 as the name for his on-line journal.

so do we get to start discussing fascism or better yet anti-fa
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post Apr 27 2017, 02:05 AM
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It was his housekeeper. Maybe she was documented. I don't know. Rush Limbaugh was up on charges for getting 4000 prescription pain killers ILLEGALLY in four months time!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-...n-drug-charges/
All this after decrying "DRUG USE" as being so awful and bad. The man is a huge hypocrite. Hows that for an example smile.gif
Here is the court affidavitfor the search warrant that led to the drug find! He was using his house keeper to buy various narcotics for him on the street!!!
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/warrants...drug-use?page=0

All of this after he constantly comes down on anyone taking drugs and how bad drugs are in general. Mostly, he blames cartels and Mexicans. All the while having his maid go out and get him narcotics on the street. Character assassination? no need, he did it to himself. Utter hypocrite.

I'm just talking about Rush here, so let's try to stay focused. Mr, right wing, anti drug, family values, having his maid go out to score for him. Before we start with all the false equivaliency, let's just admit this guy is a hypocrite wind bag. There's no other conclusion to be drawn IMHO.

So there's Rush Limbaugh for ya.
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Steve Banon and the ALT RIGHT

If the previous definition didn't work, how about this one.

BANNON HAS EMBRACED THE ALT RIGHT, A LOOSE NETWORK OF WHITE NATIONALISTS AND ANTI-SEMITES.
The alt right is a loose network of individuals and groups that promote white identity and reject mainstream conservatism in favor of politics that embrace implicit or explicit racism, anti-Semitism and white supremacy. Often by leveraging social media and the Internet, alt right adherents express opposition to multiculturalism, immigration and often claim that there is a Jewish conspiracy to advocate for “white genocide.”

Bannon “proudly” told a reporter at the 2016 Republican National Convention “we’re the platform for the alt right.”


For reference
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/bac...-things-to-know

There's the "ALT RIGHT" for ya!
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DEFINITION OF "FAR RIGHT" no problem, here ya go. Let's just go with something simple.

Far-right politics are right-wing politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right.

Far-right politics often involve a focus on tradition, real or imagined, as opposed to policies and customs that are regarded as reflective of modernism. Many far-right ideologies have a disregard or a disdain for egalitarianism, even if they do not always express overt support for social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism.

Right-wing populism, a political ideology often combines laissez-faire, nationalism, ethnocentrism and anti-elitism is often described as far-right. Right-wing populism often involves appeals to "common man" and opposition to immigration.

The term is also used to describe ideologies including Nazism, neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views, which can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics
There's that then. Each point expressed and supported with links. Feel free to research further and feel free to COMPLETELY DISAGREE! it doesn't matter at all. It's just a forum guys. smile.gif Think/Say, whatever comes to mind.

Personally, more and more I find myself drawn to the PIRATE PARTY which is very small here but much larger in Europe.

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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 26 2017, 07:32 AM) *
never brought forth your example as why, just assassinated character to try to end the argument . If rich is trying to understand what you view as alt' right , would not an example just clear things up ?
I'm glad no one on the left ever got hooked on prescription drugs . I thought he talked multiple doctors into overlapping prescriptions so I would like to see your " evidence " that he used an illegal worker


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post Apr 27 2017, 03:17 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 27 2017, 02:05 AM) *
It was his housekeeper. Maybe she was documented. I don't know. Rush Limbaugh was up on charges for getting 4000 prescription pain killers ILLEGALLY in four months time!!!
[url="http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-

You highlighted it like you knew what you were talking about , thats the tactic of the far left . Lie and if no one calls you on it , it sticks .
And in your source story nothin about him having his housekeeper buy illiega drugs on the streets , but he was indicted for doctor shoping . His house keeper merely told the national enquirer he had a drug problem . I should not have to spend my time debunking , whats getting awfully close , to fake news .

Lets do some simple math 4 moths 31 days , times four 124 . 4000 divided by 124 equals 32 pills a day , he would be dead ,
get better sources



QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 27 2017, 02:59 AM) *
You highlighted it like you knew what you were talking about , thats the tactic of the far left . Lie and if no one calls you on it , it sticks .
And in your source story nothin about him having his housekeeper buy illiega drugs on the streets , but he was indicted for doctor shoping . His house keeper merely told the national enquirer he had a drug problem . I should not have to spend my time debunking , whats getting awfully close , to fake news .

Lets do some simple math 4 moths 31 days , times four 124 . 4000 divided by 124 equals 32 pills a day , he would be dead ,
get better sources

oh ya , i forgot , so there's that

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post Apr 27 2017, 05:47 AM
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QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Apr 26 2017, 04:05 PM) *
so do we get to start discussing fascism or better yet anti-fa


Not today wink.gif but it was mentioned that 'alt right' is a left coined term. It isn't.

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post Apr 27 2017, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Apr 26 2017, 05:05 PM) *
It was his housekeeper. Maybe she was documented. I don't know. Rush Limbaugh was up on charges for getting 4000 prescription pain killers ILLEGALLY in four months time!!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rush-limbaugh-...n-drug-charges/
All this after decrying "DRUG USE" as being so awful and bad. The man is a huge hypocrite. Hows that for an example smile.gif
Here is the court affidavitfor the search warrant that led to the drug find! He was using his house keeper to buy various narcotics for him on the street!!!
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/file/warrants...drug-use?page=0

All of this after he constantly comes down on anyone taking drugs and how bad drugs are in general. Mostly, he blames cartels and Mexicans. All the while having his maid go out and get him narcotics on the street. Character assassination? no need, he did it to himself. Utter hypocrite.

I'm just talking about Rush here, so let's try to stay focused. Mr, right wing, anti drug, family values, having his maid go out to score for him. Before we start with all the false equivaliency, let's just admit this guy is a hypocrite wind bag. There's no other conclusion to be drawn IMHO.

So there's Rush Limbaugh for ya.
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Steve Banon and the ALT RIGHT

If the previous definition didn't work, how about this one.

BANNON HAS EMBRACED THE ALT RIGHT, A LOOSE NETWORK OF WHITE NATIONALISTS AND ANTI-SEMITES.
The alt right is a loose network of individuals and groups that promote white identity and reject mainstream conservatism in favor of politics that embrace implicit or explicit racism, anti-Semitism and white supremacy. Often by leveraging social media and the Internet, alt right adherents express opposition to multiculturalism, immigration and often claim that there is a Jewish conspiracy to advocate for “white genocide.”

Bannon “proudly” told a reporter at the 2016 Republican National Convention “we’re the platform for the alt right.”


For reference
https://www.adl.org/education/resources/bac...-things-to-know

There's the "ALT RIGHT" for ya!
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DEFINITION OF "FAR RIGHT" no problem, here ya go. Let's just go with something simple.

Far-right politics are right-wing politics further on the right of the left-right spectrum than the standard political right.

Far-right politics often involve a focus on tradition, real or imagined, as opposed to policies and customs that are regarded as reflective of modernism. Many far-right ideologies have a disregard or a disdain for egalitarianism, even if they do not always express overt support for social hierarchy, elements of social conservatism and opposition to most forms of liberalism and socialism.

Right-wing populism, a political ideology often combines laissez-faire, nationalism, ethnocentrism and anti-elitism is often described as far-right. Right-wing populism often involves appeals to "common man" and opposition to immigration.

The term is also used to describe ideologies including Nazism, neo-Nazism, fascism, neo-fascism and other ideologies or organizations that feature extreme nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, racist, or reactionary views, which can lead to oppression and violence against groups of people based on their supposed inferiority, or their perceived threat to the nation, state or ultraconservative traditional social institutions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics
There's that then. Each point expressed and supported with links. Feel free to research further and feel free to COMPLETELY DISAGREE! it doesn't matter at all. It's just a forum guys. smile.gif Think/Say, whatever comes to mind.

Personally, more and more I find myself drawn to the PIRATE PARTY which is very small here but much larger in Europe.

Todd

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So you still haven't told me anything that Rush has said or done for that matter that supposedly makes him faaaar right, or how Gorsuch is a hyper conservative. Lots of people get addicted to pain medication after surgery but that doesn't make them faaaar right now does it? And You describe Bannon and the alt right together and give me an uncorroborated report from a Mother Jones reporter that is supposed to confirm that Bannon is of the alt right. C'mon Man!
Ken has informed me where the term alt right came from. Thanks for that, I had no idea. But I see how some folks have run with the term and broadened it to include pretty much anyone who is conservative.
So now I wonder how many folks consider themselves to be in the alt right in this country. Maybe 10 or 20k out of 320 million or so, if it is even that many which I doubt it is. I would be surprised if the actual member count of white nationalists groups in this country reaches 5 digits.
What's a pirate party? Anarchists?

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post Apr 27 2017, 06:27 PM
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QUOTE (AK Rich @ Apr 27 2017, 07:31 AM) *
I would be surprised if the actual member count of white nationalists groups in this country reaches 5 digits.


Interestingly, I can not find any hard numbers. And I too believe the number to be relatively low.

White Nationalists scare me about as much as ISIS scares me - which is very little.


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post Apr 27 2017, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (klasaine @ Apr 27 2017, 06:27 PM) *
Interestingly, I can not find any hard numbers. And I too believe the number to be relatively low.

White Nationalists scare me about as much as ISIS scares me - which is very little.

be careful , last time we talked about irrational fears , there was a shooting wink.gif
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this is a recent quote from Sweden
Swedish National Police Commissioner Dan Eliasson has begged the government for help as the number of no-go zones has risen from 55 to 61 in only one year.

“Help us, help us,” Eliasson said at a press conference on the subject of the rising levels of crime and criminal networks in Sweden. Eliasson said there were at least 5,000 criminals divided into around 200 networks in Sweden operating in the now 61 no-go zones, many of which are heavily migrant-populated, Göteborgs-Posten reports.

Is this true or false ?
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Yeah it's true.

To be honest we don't walk outside anymore. We order all our food supplies from the Internet. And sometimes we don't even get the delivery because of violence in the ever growing no-go zones.

Also, immigration has ruined our country in just one year. Statistics show immigrants rape someone once a week. Latest report says they eat children and drink blood. They have also adapted new technology allowing tele-transportation between no-go zones - and thereby ruining our country more effectively. Some reports even claim their physiology show machine-like traits (think terminator) basically allowing each immigrant to do twice as much harm. Help!!! I wish Trump would save us.

Most Swedes are considering moving to the arctic poles, though it is unclear if Swedish immigrants will be well received there. Either way we are now really happy about the ice melting quickly as it will provide new grounds for us to escape - even if the planet only has a few more decades left in its functioning state.

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Sorry for my little ironic rant mate.

The story is not made-up but it is very exaggerated as usual: no one is begging the government for anything. However Dan Eliasson is asking other authorities to cooperate - as is recommended when dealing with organised crime.

Also there has not been an over-all increase in crime but police say they have got better at localising organised crime and can provide more detailed stats.

It is however true that these areas are not good places, in relation to Swedish standards.


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jul 1 2017, 06:25 PM) *
Sorry for my little ironic rant mate.

The story is not made-up but it is very exaggerated as usual: no one is begging the government for anything. However Dan Eliasson is asking other authorities to cooperate - as is recommended when dealing with organised crime.

Also there has not been an over-all increase in crime but police say they have got better at localising organised crime and can provide more detailed stats.

It is however true that these areas are not good places, in relation to Swedish standards.
you got me good ," my mouth was open",
I do hope your analysis is right

as long as we are being sensible , Have you seen Van Jones ( cnn reporter ) and another CNN producer caught on video , both saying Trump and Russia is a" nothing burger ", they only keep the stories because their rating have never been better ?I'll let you do the search seeing how mine are always " wrong "

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Van jones? CNN? All fake news! Didn't you hear Trump? The leaks are real the news is fake! Fake news! Fake News! Everywhere! Except fox of course.

QUOTE (jstcrsn @ Jul 1 2017, 06:27 PM) *
you got me good ," my mouth was open",
I do hope your analysis is right

as long as we are being sensible , Have you seen Van Jones ( cnn reporter ) and another CNN producer caught on video , both saying Trump and Russia is a" nothing burger ", they only keep the stories because their rating have never been better ?I'll let you do the search seeing how mine are always " wrong "


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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jul 2 2017, 09:42 AM) *
Van jones? CNN? All fake news! Didn't you hear Trump? The leaks are real the news is fake! Fake news! Fake News! Everywhere! Except fox of course.
Todd , this is the sensible thread, please start a " lets mock CRSN thread " if you feel the need .

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What? no mockery, I'm finally convinced. Fake news everywhere!!

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Todd , this is the sensible thread, please start a " lets mock CRSN thread " if you feel the need .



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closing this discussion, as it feels quite exhausted by now.


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