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post May 15 2017, 08:03 PM
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Is there a program that will take an audio file WAV, AIFF, MP3 of a song and create a midi drum track?

Does that make sense? If I wanted to record cover music but not build the drum midis - just somehow copy them to midi from the actual song then use EZ Drummer.
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post May 15 2017, 10:26 PM
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I know how you feel. Making drums is probably the most tedious thing in the world for me. You can do it in ABLETON.

https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/converting-audio-to-midi/

wish there was a plugin for it smile.gif I think the MELODYNE plugin editor will do it but it's not free.

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Is there a program that will take an audio file WAV, AIFF, MP3 of a song and create a midi drum track?

Does that make sense? If I wanted to record cover music but not build the drum midis - just somehow copy them to midi from the actual song then use EZ Drummer.



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post May 16 2017, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE (Spock @ May 15 2017, 07:03 PM) *
Is there a program that will take an audio file WAV, AIFF, MP3 of a song and create a midi drum track?

Does that make sense? If I wanted to record cover music but not build the drum midis - just somehow copy them to midi from the actual song then use EZ Drummer.


Something that takes a full song and produces a drum midi track you can send to EZ Drummer? No, there isn't anything that can do that. The closest is probably Groove Extractor. But you'll need isolated drum tracks for that, and even then, don't expect the result to sound much like the original.

A better approach would be to try to remove the guitar sound from the audio with something like Riffstation. I've had limited success doing that, but depending on the song, it might work well enough for your purposes.





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post May 16 2017, 01:05 AM
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If you can find a tab of the song with drums in Guitar Pro, you can export the drums midi to your DAW and apply a plugin (such as Superior Drummer 2 etc.), and with some editing have them sound pretty decent. I don't know if I misunderstood the question though.

Here's an example of something from Guitar Pro 5, exported and quickly edited in Reaper with humanize function:

https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/9-4a


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post May 16 2017, 03:07 AM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ May 15 2017, 08:05 PM) *
If you can find a tab of the song with drums in Guitar Pro, you can export the drums midi to your DAW and apply a plugin (such as Superior Drummer 2 etc.), and with some editing have them sound pretty decent. I don't know if I misunderstood the question though.

Here's an example of something from Guitar Pro 5, exported and quickly edited in Reaper with humanize function:

https://soundcloud.com/benjamin-storm-linnebjerg/9-4a



DRATS!!! It's not in Guitar Pro however I do have the midi opened for the past 2 days - everything on separate tracks at TabPro but there is no way to download the midi itself that I can find.

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post May 16 2017, 07:28 AM
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BINGO!!! I THink I may have found your Miracle smile.gif It will detect drums even in a mix, and let you replace them with whatever you like. Watch the video smile.gif

Will even let you pull midi data out and use it with your fave drum plugin! Spiff eh?

https://www.xlnaudio.com/addictivetrigger




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Is there a program that will take an audio file WAV, AIFF, MP3 of a song and create a midi drum track?

Does that make sense? If I wanted to record cover music but not build the drum midis - just somehow copy them to midi from the actual song then use EZ Drummer.


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post May 16 2017, 08:45 AM
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+1,000

You have just given me a new side business.

Thanx Todd!

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post May 16 2017, 05:34 PM
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I have Addictive Trigger. It's nice, but it's a drum replacer which, unless I misunderstand, is not what you're looking for. For example, the way you use it is: if you don't like the snare the drummer in your band recorded, you send the isolated snare audio track through Addictive Trigger and it replaces it with a different snare sound. It doesn't work on full song mixes.


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post May 16 2017, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE (Rammikin @ May 16 2017, 12:34 PM) *
I have Addictive Trigger. It's nice, but it's a drum replacer which, unless I misunderstand, is not what you're looking for. For example, the way you use it is: if you don't like the snare the drummer in your band recorded, you send the isolated snare audio track through Addictive Trigger and it replaces it with a different snare sound. It doesn't work on full song mixes.


From what I can tell you are correct. There is a built in version in Logic X and it will replace the bass drum, snare, toms, cymbals. When you play midi created along with the track it sounds thick, or you can use the created midi to replace the, say, bass drum or whatever you picked.

What I am hoping is that I can run it on all 4 of those, bass drum, snare, toms, cymbals and have 4 components - maybe more depending on Addictive Trigger. Then tweak from there. The stripped down version built within Logic does a great job at velocity.

The good news is my friend here at work already owns the program. He creates sound FX to give away and sell, he also mixes - and he said he had Addictive Trigger and never knew what it was for.

So he's putting it in his DropBox for me to download when I get home tonight.

It's worth a try.
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post May 16 2017, 11:20 PM
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Let us know how it goes smile.gif The video seemed to indicate it could analyze a given chunk of audio and pull out the drums, but maybe I misunderstood the vid smile.gif I did find a vid just about pulling midi out so you can use it with your own drumm software.


Also, you can isolate nearly anything if you spring for the MELODYNE EDITOR. But It's not cheap.
http://blog.cakewalk.com/subtract-or-isola...-an-audio-file/



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From what I can tell you are correct. There is a built in version in Logic X and it will replace the bass drum, snare, toms, cymbals. When you play midi created along with the track it sounds thick, or you can use the created midi to replace the, say, bass drum or whatever you picked.

What I am hoping is that I can run it on all 4 of those, bass drum, snare, toms, cymbals and have 4 components - maybe more depending on Addictive Trigger. Then tweak from there. The stripped down version built within Logic does a great job at velocity.

The good news is my friend here at work already owns the program. He creates sound FX to give away and sell, he also mixes - and he said he had Addictive Trigger and never knew what it was for.

So he's putting it in his DropBox for me to download when I get home tonight.

It's worth a try.


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post May 17 2017, 08:13 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ May 16 2017, 06:20 PM) *
Let us know how it goes smile.gif The video seemed to indicate it could analyze a given chunk of audio and pull out the drums, but maybe I misunderstood the vid smile.gif I did find a vid just about pulling midi out so you can use it with your own drumm software.


Also, you can isolate nearly anything if you spring for the MELODYNE EDITOR. But It's not cheap.
http://blog.cakewalk.com/subtract-or-isola...-an-audio-file/


I'm going to have to try again - the compressed program was not able to open.
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post May 17 2017, 08:51 PM
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compressed program? You lost me?


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I'm going to have to try again - the compressed program was not able to open.



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