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> Guns N' Roses Style, Lesson By Gabriel Leopardi
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post May 26 2017, 06:18 PM
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Original lesson: Guns N' Roses Style by Gabriel Leopardi

Hi Gmc

I work this lesson since some weeks.
Riffs is simple but asks a very precise playing.
It's very hard to play tight in timing.

I played two part, Gab gave me the track with bass and drum only.
I like understanding how the BT was built

Thank you Gab for advises about lesson and vst
I gave the best of myself

This post has been edited by MisterM: May 27 2017, 05:53 AM

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post May 29 2017, 09:47 AM
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As usual you are doing a really good job.

The most concise thing I can comment on is to experiment with a little less distortion or try backing of the treble a bit. Also I would recommend you do not scoop (= remove too much) mid range.

And as usual, I am lacking that last bit of groove to give you a top score. Bare in mind that Gab's right hand is a fully fledged rhythm machine - for less experienced players it might be very useful to tap your foot as well to back up the groove. I noticed you did not tap your foot during those sections.

You get an 8 from me!

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post May 30 2017, 01:54 PM
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Hi MisterM!

Nice to find this one at REC! I'm here just for grading because we are already working on this one at the mentoring thread.

I'd like to add that it's a good decision to start working on rhythm lessons as a complement to solo lessons that you are mastering. Keep the good job!

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post Jun 1 2017, 09:38 AM
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Hey there again!

You both do a great job at Gab's Army smile.gif

Let me start from things that took my attention first.

There is overall feeling of not precise pitch, cause bu the instrument intonation - not by your playing. The moment when you start to play full baree chords exposes it much. If you usually just tune your open string to a tuning device, I would advice to go to a luthier. If your nut string slots are not deep enough, than fretting fingers pressure cause fretted notes to increase the pitch. I'm just guessing because from the factory instrument are being a kind of compromised setup-wise. Players prefere different strings gauges and string height so it's actually almost impossible to make it work perfect for everybody at the same time. Giving your guitar to a luthier that will know what you like your guitar to be setup - strings gauge and height can be an excellent idea

Second thing about the chords is that I feel like gab is playing powerchords rather than full chords. In your take the 3rds of each chord are extremely visible, while in Gab's original track...they're not. 3rds are a nasty intervals for this much of distortion. That's why powerchords have been "invented" smile.gif Try to tune your guitar to fretted notes rather than open strings. very often it solves 90% of the problem

This lesson demands a lot of rhytmical tightness and precission. Not only perfect moments to hit the notes but a perfect moments to break them/mute them. At the moments when they would suppose to be muted I can notice some unwanted string cutting through. If you would be my personall student I guess I would try to break you free from that particular right hand grip you have. There's a lot of good muting job finger can do if they are released free - for example in this case - they support the left hand in a harder muting moments. I also belive it's unnecessary tension for the hand. Strength of thumb and right index finger is just enough to have a solid pick grip. Released fingers can also be always ready for volume knob adjustments. I know that Gab does not do this but he has been playign this way for years I belive and he found his personall solutions for mentioned problems. I'm just saying how things work for me smile.gif For example at the break at 0:06 you could rest a side of your right palm through all the strings and make them perfectly silent.

As for solo playing you have some kind of smoothness that I always liked. I do not caputre anything cirtical there but I have to admit that it can be partially because both guitars - rhythm and solo are filled in the same frequency range - exactly the same tone. This makes rhythm guitar cover the solo at some points - at least cover some details that would be important for us to capture. Remember you can alwasy try to doubletrack the rhythm guitar. Record teh same part twice and pan one track left and the other track right. Make the soloe be as additional center track. Doubling the backing guitars make the feeling of low mids being boosted, there also heppen to appear some tine phase mismatch that makes some frequencies "deny" at some spots and this makes rhythm guitars take the frequency range a little different than a solo guitar on center does. Remember - it's not alwasy enough that rhythm and solo parts happen in different octaves smile.gif

In general it's pleasane take with mainly the tuning problem in the rhythm part. I know it all above looks like serious problems, but those are just pro tips for someone who cares to sound pro, and I belive you are such a player . Keep on rocking!

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