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post Jun 23 2017, 06:23 PM
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/201...m=.5bed4dcadf95

A long but nice read...


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post Jun 23 2017, 11:17 PM
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I thought this reaction to the article was really interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rD5N1L_wt58


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post Jun 24 2017, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Jun 23 2017, 10:17 PM) *
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To me his perspective is a bit off, really too far away from understanding kids or maybe even his own youth.

-The sales numbers can be argued but its still a fact. I live in a country where the guitar landed much later than others and there are many like mine. If global sales aren't enough to keep increasing guitar sales there there's definitly something not nice going on.

-I agree there are no "guitar heros" in a matter of pre-teen or teen's idolize. While probably there are more (known in the media) pro even excellent guitar players, I can see them being role models.

There is a lot to info/ideas be argued from the article. I'd like to read more GMC'er opinions as they are the heart of the guitar industry today more than anyone else who is involved in it as a business.


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post Jun 24 2017, 02:19 AM
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Yes, some companies are doing better than others, and sales are lower than they were before 2008. That's true of a lot of industries. But AFAIK electric guitar sales have been relatively stable since then. You can argue the guitar hero issue, but that's nonsense. That's simply realizing that the music industry has changed in the past 20 years. Really!!!???? Wow! smile.gif But I don't think the sales issue is entirely accurate.

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post Jun 24 2017, 05:44 AM
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I was shocked that one of the main drivers of sales is now TAYLOR SWIFT! Of all people and shocked that Acoustic sales have outpaced electric sales for the first time. Wow. It really is a different. World. It does come down to kids at some point, many of us grew up listening to wads of great guitar players, so we wanted to play guitar smile.gif Turn on the radio now and you barely hear a guitar anywhere but on the "Classic Rock" station which most younger folks don't listen to as that's their "Dad's" station. There are plenty of exceptions of course or there would be no rules. But here we are neck deep in Taylor Swift fans buying acoustic guitars. Bodes poorly for sales of electrics a bit and for the next generation to some degree. However, I take GREAT comfort in seeing the tremendous talent coming out of every country on the planet on youtube. Kids as young as 8 are ripping through RACER X tunes on an Ibby. Does my heart good smile.gif Germany has a spate of Rock/Metal outdoor festivals every single summer of every single year.

It seems that the states has become a bit of a laggard in some respects. Cinema is another example. No longer does the US domestic gross define a movie. It's whether or not it's one of the 35 that get in to China. Case in point WARHAMMER was a HUGE flop in the states. yet grossed 200 million and made money thanks to China. There is barely any dialogue in the film. Mostly just cg and action.

This is not to say that the "Guitar God" is dead, again just look at youtube and someone like ANDY JAMES or MARK SFGOLI. I'd say the Guitar God isn't dead, they are just not on top 40 radio anymore. That's ok, as most folks, by percentage, find new music on youtube smile.gif

So sure, as the top 40 lost it's edge, electric guitar sales slumped a bit. It couldn't grow forever. Nothing can. Thankfully, Ibanez still makes guitars with necks finished by hand, in Japan, where spiff Ibby's are grown, sorry, made.

Speaking of KILLER IBBYS! I just found an ibby I've been looking for since it came out forever ago. They are quite rare and this one is in new condition. Here is a teaser.

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post Jun 24 2017, 06:22 AM
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The whole article is based on this misleading statement:

"In the past decade, electric guitar sales have plummeted, from about 1.5 million sold annually to just over 1 million."

This makes it sound like sales are on a downward trend, but that's not true. In 2008 a worldwide recession battered the world's economy. Just like most industries, musical instruments sales slumped. Electric guitar sales fell from 1.5 million units in 2007 to 1 million in 2008. But since then, sales have been stable. In other words, in the past 9 nine years, sales have not declined.

Everything that follows in the article, including the whole bit about guitar heroes, is searching for reasons to explain a downward trend that doesn't exist.


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post Jun 24 2017, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jun 24 2017, 04:44 AM) *
This is not to say that the "Guitar God" is dead, again just look at youtube and someone like ANDY JAMES or MARK SFGOLI. I'd say the Guitar God isn't dead, they are just not on top 40 radio anymore. That's ok, as most folks, by percentage, find new music on youtube smile.gif


When thinking Slash, EVH, Vai...such guys were in no:1 bands/songs and on stage had the same focus as the vocalist (by fans that don't play guitars). Go back in time more and example names increase...

As you mentioned there aren't on top 40 radio stations, how does a kid grow the idea of guitar without parents infuence? The tylor Swift example is excellent for such argument on the guitars future.


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post Jun 24 2017, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jun 24 2017, 10:38 AM) *
As you mentioned there aren't on top 40 radio stations, how does a kid grow the idea of guitar without parents infuence?


The same way kids find music to listen to on these days. On YouTube or Spotify. It's just a lot more fractured than in the days of radio when it was fed to them via mass media, so it's easy to fall into the trap of assuming there aren't just as many kids out there listening to music and being inspired by it. As long as there are kids who want to rebel, there will be rock. And as long as there is rock, there will be guitar smile.gif.

It's the same thing as you see here on GMC and other guitar lesson sites. Many of the lessons feature guitarists from long ago. That doesn't mean there aren't just as many great guitarists worth following today, it's just that the music industry is fractured, so you see fewer big artists at the top, but more excellent artists in the lower sales tiers.

I lament the loss of the the shared mass cultural experience of radio and MTV just like everybody else. When something like grunge came out and everybody was listening to the same songs, it was a wonderful feeling of belonging to a large and profound cultural movement.

That kind of musical wave is gone forever, and so is the feeling of belonging to something big on the musical scene. But it's been replaced by something equally wonderful, where you can discover so much great music, and follow so many great guitarists.



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