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post Jul 26 2017, 07:02 PM
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what do you guys think of the new Chapman Pro range, what are they comparable with at their new higher price range?
Costs are similar to premium ibby and a couple of the new signatures are in the US fender price range.

I thought the Rabea Sigs looked pretty tasty. the normal and baritone version sound pretty decent. About £1,200 price tag on those.
I was never too bothered about the old ML1 but the new ML1 Pro Modern looks killer, Id be tempted rolleyes.gif especially the orange one, I really like the finish on that.



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post Jul 26 2017, 07:19 PM
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All Chapman guitars look nice and are something I'd be interested in, except none of them have fret markers. That's a no go for me, it's just for appearance and removes a functional feature for no reason. Yeah, I could adapt, but why bother when there are so many other choices? Same goes for Ibanez Iron Label.


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post Jul 26 2017, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jul 26 2017, 07:19 PM) *
All Chapman guitars look nice and are something I'd be interested in, except none of them have fret markers. That's a no go for me, it's just for appearance and removes a functional feature for no reason. Yeah, I could adapt, but why bother when there are so many other choices? Same goes for Ibanez Iron Label.

the lack of fret markers bothers me as well TBH. Ive never actually played a guitar without so I dont know what its like but I do find the lack of them a little disconcerting.


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post Jul 26 2017, 07:34 PM
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Checked the ML3BEA; https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/ML3-BEA-SMO/s...a-massaad-smoke

and noticed its the same price of an ibanez my friend just got and I mentioned it on the namm topic; https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/RG7PCMLTD-TKG...electric-guitar

Chapmans haven't arrived here so I can't say much but (and I'm aware its apples-oranges) competing with ibanez on price is very hard...I'd also add schecter's new or current options then things would get more complicated biggrin.gif


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post Jul 26 2017, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jul 26 2017, 07:34 PM) *
Checked the ML3BEA; https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/ML3-BEA-SMO/s...a-massaad-smoke

and noticed its the same price of an ibanez my friend just got and I mentioned it on the namm topic; https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/RG7PCMLTD-TKG...electric-guitar

Chapmans haven't arrived here so I can't say much but (and I'm aware its apples-oranges) competing with ibanez on price is very hard...I'd also add schecter's new or current options then things would get more complicated biggrin.gif


yeah schecter and maybe some of the ESP range?
your friends ibby does look nice! The premium ibbys are very solid, Ive played a couple and they felt great. I noticed the specs on the bea model say the bridge is 'Wilkinson 2-Point Tremolo, Brass Block' is that like the same style as a strat?


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post Jul 26 2017, 08:14 PM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 26 2017, 06:56 PM) *
yeah schecter and maybe some of the ESP range?
your friends ibby does look nice! The premium ibbys are very solid, Ive played a couple and they felt great. I noticed the specs on the bea model say the bridge is 'Wilkinson 2-Point Tremolo, Brass Block' is that like the same style as a strat?


Yeah but the modern Fender range. These are advantages if you prefer the bridge to float, 2 point help tuning stability and the brass block helps preserve some of the tone.

Not really for dive bombing or abusive use you can do with a floyd system but solid for subtle use and has the advantage of not needing to lock anything or cut strings. Wilkinson is a good brand, makes cheap version too but I wouldn't expect low quality versions on such a guitar.

The premiums did get much better over the years, first ones weren't too bad but not special either. Aside wanting a better setup, I couldn't find anything to not like or would change when testing my friends guitar.


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post Jul 26 2017, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 26 2017, 06:26 PM) *
the lack of fret markers bothers me as well TBH. Ive never actually played a guitar without so I dont know what its like but I do find the lack of them a little disconcerting.


I have a couple of guitars with fret marker decals. They're durable, look nice, and are available in a variety of styles. You have to examine them very closely to see they're not inlays. Plus they're easy to remove if you want to change them.


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post Jul 26 2017, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Jul 26 2017, 08:14 PM) *
Yeah but the modern Fender range. These are advantages if you prefer the bridge to float, 2 point help tuning stability and the brass block helps preserve some of the tone.

Not really for dive bombing or abusive use you can do with a floyd system but solid for subtle use and has the advantage of not needing to lock anything or cut strings. Wilkinson is a good brand, makes cheap version too but I wouldn't expect low quality versions on such a guitar.

I like the strat bridge. Ive got it blocked off on the Korean strat cool.gif The regular ML3 Pro is about £400 cheaper than the Bea version. It looks pretty decent as well, not sure what you are losing or gaining between the two, other than the flame top which is very nice.
The new Pro range does look good. I like the neck thru on the ML1, can totally see one of these hitting my credit card in the future rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Rammikin @ Jul 26 2017, 08:42 PM) *
I have a couple of guitars with fret marker decals. They're durable, look nice, and are available in a variety of styles. You have to examine them very closely to see they're not inlays. Plus they're easy to remove if you want to change them.

I could see me doing this smile.gif are they difficult to line up when you apply them?


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post Jul 26 2017, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 26 2017, 09:42 PM) *
I could see me doing this smile.gif are they difficult to line up when you apply them?


I didn't have any trouble. The strings help you keep them in a straight line. This has an inlay at the 12th fret and I added all the dots.


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post Jul 27 2017, 04:04 AM
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QUOTE (bleez @ Jul 26 2017, 07:26 PM) *
the lack of fret markers bothers me as well TBH. Ive never actually played a guitar without so I dont know what its like but I do find the lack of them a little disconcerting.
I got one . I have never been able to adapt . I bought some cheap fret stickers , it plays like a dream . I don't know how anybody could play without them . To me , it is just enough of a reference point that when you are playing , it helps you keep things on track
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post Jul 27 2017, 05:35 AM
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I like the V smile.gif The other one looks like a Schecter imho?


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post Oct 28 2017, 10:24 AM
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man, that's how you sell guitars ohmy.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6ZOlzfEjBg


Even for Rabea, who always plays great, this is just sick as hell riffing and that panty dropper of a solo at 1:30 is killer!


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post Oct 28 2017, 11:08 AM
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I got a bit sea-sick while watching that biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Mertay @ Oct 28 2017, 11:08 AM) *
I got a bit sea-sick while watching that biggrin.gif

LOL! Yeah, and that t-shirt didnt help any. I thought the riffage was knocking my eyes out of focus smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2017, 07:25 PM
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Same here. Some folks HATE fret markers, I'm not one of those people. I like fret markers smile.gif I like the look on the neck, they rae handy for visual reference as well. Neck just looks empty without them imho, but again some people LOVE the way it looks so more power to them smile.gif

QUOTE (yoncopin @ Jul 26 2017, 02:19 PM) *
All Chapman guitars look nice and are something I'd be interested in, except none of them have fret markers. That's a no go for me, it's just for appearance and removes a functional feature for no reason. Yeah, I could adapt, but why bother when there are so many other choices? Same goes for Ibanez Iron Label.



The "SHAKEY CAM" thing was over quite a few years ago, I can't believe they are trying to bring it back in gear vids. If there was every a video genre that could use a steady shot, it's gear vids. The wavy cam doesn't add anything visually but nausea imho. But again, like fret markers, some folks LOVE this look. Just not me smile.gif

QUOTE (bleez @ Oct 28 2017, 12:36 PM) *
LOL! Yeah, and that t-shirt didnt help any. I thought the riffage was knocking my eyes out of focus smile.gif



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Like most of them but not that ML1 Traditional Standard at 2:50, those pickups look weird.


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