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post Sep 1 2017, 09:19 PM
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I found this interesting.

Maybe GMC could have a series of some 3 chord songs, Learn it the basic way first, (as his theoretical student does), then gradually develop and explain how the parts are developed from the chords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL-T5CIXmV4


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post Sep 1 2017, 10:36 PM
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It sounds like something Kris may be able to cover in Sunday Chats? I hope I'm not speaking for him too badly smile.gif

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I found this interesting.

Maybe GMC could have a series of some 3 chord songs, Learn it the basic way first, (as his theoretical student does), then gradually develop and explain how the parts are developed from the chords.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL-T5CIXmV4


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post Sep 1 2017, 10:51 PM
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Nah,

I think a dedicated series of classic songs from busker to studio artist with a beginner to intermediate to advanced would be great and would teach students how to grow.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Sep 1 2017, 09:51 PM) *
I think a dedicated series of classic songs from busker to studio artist with a beginner to intermediate to advanced would be great and would teach students how to grow.


Very nice Phil! Yes, such lesson series would be a great idea as you could learn step by step and would have an ongoing plan where to go next.

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It could be in the form of a workshop, learn the basic three chord strum then the teacher explains some simple embellishments, (maybe small parts from the song) then the student learns those embellishments and tries to create some of their own.

Each week the embellishments get more advanced until after, say, three months, the song has been explained and demonstrated as the original. The student then has all the nuts and bolts of the song even if they can't play it.

I think it could be a very good thing to help understand how these "simple" songs sound so good.

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I'm sure Kris could create something like this for you smile.gif Have you tried to send him a personal message about this? Just in case he doesn't see this thread? I'd say hit him up directly and just ask smile.gif


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It could be in the form of a workshop, learn the basic three chord strum then the teacher explains some simple embellishments, (maybe small parts from the song) then the student learns those embellishments and tries to create some of their own.

Each week the embellishments get more advanced until after, say, three months, the song has been explained and demonstrated as the original. The student then has all the nuts and bolts of the song even if they can't play it.

I think it could be a very good thing to help understand how these "simple" songs sound so good.

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Xlnt video!

It's amazing what you'll hear on subsequent re-listens of a song once you know the basic chords and form.
I hear 'new stuff' in tunes that I've been listening to for 35 years laugh.gif

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Sep 2 2017, 04:17 PM) *
It could be in the form of a workshop, learn the basic three chord strum then the teacher explains some simple embellishments, (maybe small parts from the song) then the student learns those embellishments and tries to create some of their own.

Each week the embellishments get more advanced until after, say, three months, the song has been explained and demonstrated as the original. The student then has all the nuts and bolts of the song even if they can't play it.

I think it could be a very good thing to help understand how these "simple" songs sound so good.

smile.gif



Putting this into a weekly workshop is even much better than a lesson! biggrin.gif I really like the idea of continuously working on it and making some progress.
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Yeah, I think so too. As we're all working on various things like collabs, technique, etc, I think the steps should be small enough to only need 20-30 minutes a day. Students that complete what the instructor shows them before the next week can develop their own things within the format and record them for others to hear..

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I'm sure Kris could create something like this for you smile.gif Have you tried to send him a personal message about this? Just in case he doesn't see this thread? I'd say hit him up directly and just ask smile.gif


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Yes Todd, I've sent a PM, I'm not sure my messages are getting through though, I've sent a couple recently and got no reply. He's probably too busy at the moment wink.gif


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He is a very busy guy to be sure smile.gif It sounds like you have a really good idea of how something like this should go, why don't you give it a shot on a simpler song in your own thread? I'm sure if it gets a good response that it will draw attention and get folks and Kris to take note smile.gif

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Yeah, I think so too. As we're all working on various things like collabs, technique, etc, I think the steps should be small enough to only need 20-30 minutes a day. Students that complete what the instructor shows them before the next week can develop their own things within the format and record them for others to hear..



Yes Todd, I've sent a PM, I'm not sure my messages are getting through though, I've sent a couple recently and got no reply. He's probably too busy at the moment wink.gif



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Thing is I take a lot of Gab's time with my lessons already and I'm really trying to get to a pass level on THIS so I don't want to give him any more workload really.

I do really think it would be good for many students though. Even doing just a couple might show folks how to dissect a song once they know the basic chords or even show them how to come up with their own versions with their own signature on the song if that makes sense.

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Hi guys! That's a very cool approach. I was talking with Phil that this can be learnt from my "in the style of..." rhythm lessons since I share the way the bands arrange their songs, but I always share the simple chord progression on screen and over backing tracks.

These are some examples:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Indie-...-Kings-Of-Leon/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Imagine-Dragons-Style/
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Snow-Patrol/

You could play the simple version of this lessons by playing the chords shared on screen over the main video.

Let's see the first parts of one of Snow Patrol lesson. Check out the chords over the tabs, that would be the simple version.

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If you get into the slower videos, you'll find explanations of what concepts are being used to convert those simple chords into those arrangements.

By the way, we could make a workout in which we can go deeper with this.


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Thanks Gab,

As I said in our discussion I think "simple" three chord Stones style songs would be great. We could learn the "camp fire" version them simple embellishments on the first chord, then the second chord, then the third and get more advanced over the or more stages. A workshop would be great because students could share ideas and those that advance quicker could experiment and share different arrangements.

If it was a sticky, students could join at the beginning at any time.

The reason I think it would be good is that you very often hear people say what the chords are used but when you listen you can't hear them because they aren't playing the "camp fire" version. I often hear busker playing a song and can't identify the song until they actually sing.

I personally don't have time in my schedule to join in yet if a workshop is started but I would have a go in the future so feel free to start one of enough are interested.

Thanks for listening Gab smile.gif


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