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post Aug 6 2007, 02:04 AM
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when sweeping do you mute the string your playing or the string after the one your playing?
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QUOTE (Nick325 @ Aug 5 2007, 09:04 PM) *
when sweeping do you mute the string your playing or the string after the one your playing?



Im no expert on sweeping dry.gif but i know that you mute strings to stop excess or unwanted noise.Other than that i will let someone better like pavel or Marcus explain smile.gif

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QUOTE (Nick325 @ Aug 6 2007, 04:04 AM) *
when sweeping do you mute the string your playing or the string after the one your playing?


No dude... u mute the string that u've played if u mute the string that u're playing it'll sound kind of muddy..u don't want that so just mute the string that u've already played n hopefully it'll sound clean smile.gif


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post Aug 6 2007, 10:35 AM
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I see students asking always the same question about sweeping but it's all described in Basics Of Sweeping lesson if you read the huge feedback post which we developed after i saw that people don't get it straight away and Fkalich helped me by asking more and more questions! So here is a Copy/Pasted text from there:

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Ok so let's get started (wow - that will be a long one):

First of all - the right hand! It is always on the bridge right where the strings are "connected". You never lift it from the strings/bridge. You only move it up and down. When you get onto the 1st string - i don't mute it at all. So i mute 5th, 4th, 3rd and 2nd strings with the right hand.

Downstroke:

So we pick the 5th string, - the right hand is "attached" to the bridge right above the 5th string. Now we lift the finger and fret the 4th string - the right hand moves slightly down to mute the 5th string and picks the 4th string. Next - we lift the finger from the 4th string and fret the 3rd string - move the right hand down the bridge to mute the 4th strings and pick the 3rd string (the movement and picking is done together). Lift the finger from 3rd string - fret 2nd string, move the right hand to mute the 3rd string and pick 2nd string. Lift finger from 2nd string, fret 1st string and move the right hand down the bridge to slightly mute the 2nd string and pick the 1st string.

Now comes the upstroke:

Pick the 1st string, do a pull-off (depending on the sweep shape), as soon as you fret the 2nd string the fretting finger slightly touches the 1st string so it becomes muted (check the Basics Of Legato lesson if not sure what it means). SO WE DON'T mute with the right hand on the upstroke but with the FRETTING FINGERS! Now we lift the finger from the 2nd string - at the same time we fret the 3rd string and mute the 2nd string with the fretting finger of the 3rd string. Right hand moves up the bridge as you pick. Lift the 3rd string finger, fret the 4th string and slightly touch the 3rd string with the fretting finger of the 4th string. Move the right hand up the bridge and pick. Fret the 5th string, lift the finger from the 4th string (this is done at the same time), slightly touch the 4th string with the fretting finger of the 5th string. Move the right hand up the bridge and pick.

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post Aug 6 2007, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Aug 6 2007, 04:35 AM) *
I see students asking always the same question about sweeping but it's all described in Basics Of Sweeping lesson if you read the huge feedback post which we developed after i saw that people don't get it straight away and Fkalich helped me by asking more and more questions! So here is a Copy/Pasted text from there:

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Ok so let's get started (wow - that will be a long one):

First of all - the right hand! It is always on the bridge right where the strings are "connected". You never lift it from the strings/bridge. You only move it up and down. When you get onto the 1st string - i don't mute it at all. So i mute 5th, 4th, 3rd and 2nd strings with the right hand.

Downstroke:

So we pick the 5th string, - the right hand is "attached" to the bridge right above the 5th string. Now we lift the finger and fret the 4th string - the right hand moves slightly down to mute the 5th string and picks the 4th string. Next - we lift the finger from the 4th string and fret the 3rd string - move the right hand down the bridge to mute the 4th strings and pick the 3rd string (the movement and picking is done together). Lift the finger from 3rd string - fret 2nd string, move the right hand to mute the 3rd string and pick 2nd string. Lift finger from 2nd string, fret 1st string and move the right hand down the bridge to slightly mute the 2nd string and pick the 1st string.

Now comes the upstroke:

Pick the 1st string, do a pull-off (depending on the sweep shape), as soon as you fret the 2nd string the fretting finger slightly touches the 1st string so it becomes muted (check the Basics Of Legato lesson if not sure what it means). SO WE DON'T mute with the right hand on the upstroke but with the FRETTING FINGERS! Now we lift the finger from the 2nd string - at the same time we fret the 3rd string and mute the 2nd string with the fretting finger of the 3rd string. Right hand moves up the bridge as you pick. Lift the 3rd string finger, fret the 4th string and slightly touch the 3rd string with the fretting finger of the 4th string. Move the right hand up the bridge and pick. Fret the 5th string, lift the finger from the 4th string (this is done at the same time), slightly touch the 4th string with the fretting finger of the 5th string. Move the right hand up the bridge and pick.

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That's it! If you don't understand - read it again as we went through this text a hundred times and people agreed this is the most detailed description on Internet smile.gif


most detailed and specific i have seen, and I have looked quite a bit.

edit: question for Pavel. Some guys get a more percussive sound, at least at times. some acknowledges top players. i suspect they are doing the same, however the right hand starts to mute a bit as the note is struck, rather than at the lift up, thus, the percussive sound. Do you agree?

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post Aug 6 2007, 11:27 AM
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Yes if you mute it all the way than you get kind of "stucky-stucky" sound. It's especially cool with delay but also you have to mute right at the place where the string leaves the bridge to get a proper mute for that sound!


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