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post Nov 26 2017, 09:12 PM
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Hi

i'm working on the soundgarden "Black hole Sun" cover

i have found one Backtrack with vocals



and i have a tab, in drop D

Attached File  www_tablatures_tk___Soundgarden___Black_Hole_Sun__3_.gp3 ( 31.05K ) Number of downloads: 9


i have learn most of the song, but when i plays on, it seem to be not at the right tonality...

any idea ?

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post Nov 26 2017, 09:25 PM
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That track sounds slow to me Laurent.


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post Nov 26 2017, 09:53 PM
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Hi Phil

if you look this one, it seem to be ok...



i m tuned in Drop D, so D A D G B E.... it sound awfull....

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post Nov 26 2017, 10:25 PM
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This is one take

it seem not to bad in term of tune.....it's not played very well, it's really fresh

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/tapedeck-2-nov-26-22-21-07

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post Nov 26 2017, 10:47 PM
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Maybe this could help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pYCE7jCe_o
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It seems the tuning may be a quarter step sharp. Go to about 27 seconds into this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOTRoZMAJ0s
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY5tDB9mp3c
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Also this backing may be a bit better quality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc5OeZ8TV44
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Thanks Rich

it seem to be good.... why it sound weird in my ears.... i don"t know why...

i have the right tabs, the right Drop D guitar tune, he right Backtrack.... so let's go !

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QUOTE (fzalfa @ Nov 26 2017, 02:05 PM) *
Thanks Rich

it seem to be good.... why it sound weird in my ears.... i don"t know why...

i have the right tabs, the right Drop D guitar tune, he right Backtrack.... so let's go !

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Hey Laurent. Check my edited post and the second video. It seems it may have been recorded with a tuning that is slightly sharp which would make your playing slightly flat and weird sounding. Maybe try tuning your guitar to the recording instead of using your tuner. Find the root and tune the rest of your strings the old fashioned way. smile.gif

For whatever reason, sometimes songs are recorded with a slightly altered tuning that is a micro tone away from 440. You can either tune to the song itself or try to recalibrate your tuner which may be a pain in the arse.

Here is another example of a song that was recorded with a slightly altered tuning and when you try to play along with it, the song sounds as if it is in between two different keys and our playing just sounds off. Because it is! biggrin.gif

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The problem I hear is with the vocals. The poor fella is trying to sing a Chris Cornell track which is just not that easy to do. He's all over the place in terms of his vocals drifting in and out of key. As a result, it's hard to tell when the rest of the song is in key or not. I'd say find a different backing, without that singer!!

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This is one take

it seem not to bad in term of tune.....it's not played very well, it's really fresh

https://soundcloud.com/dizy-laurent/tapedeck-2-nov-26-22-21-07

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Nov 26 2017, 05:41 PM) *
The problem I hear is with the vocals. The poor fella is trying to sing a Chris Cornell track which is just not that easy to do. He's all over the place in terms of his vocals drifting in and out of key. As a result, it's hard to tell when the rest of the song is in key or not. I'd say find a different backing, without that singer!!

Yeah that backing sucks but it isn't the only issue. I posted a better backing above but the guitars tuning will still need to be adjusted away from A=440 or it's never going to sound right. Here is a tutorial that will explain it. Try to play along with the backing or the isolated guitar track above in standard tuning with a drop D and you will see what I mean.
Some say to calibrate your tuner so that A=435 or 432 and then tune to Drop D#
https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/soundg..._sun_tabs_38645


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Hi guys !!

thanks Rich, this lesson is what i have learn !!

the backtrack is REALLY SUCKING A LOT, i must play 1/2 tone hight during some parts of the song !

so now i think only get the voices fro mthe orginal one (maybe... not easy) get the drums from a MIDI file and play bass and both guitars

i cannot sing on, i don"t know how to !!

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Hi here

i have build my own backtrack !

Attached File  soundgarden_black_hole_sun.mp3 ( 8.5MB ) Number of downloads: 8


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Great smile.gif Which parts did you create?

QUOTE (fzalfa @ Nov 29 2017, 05:34 PM) *
Hi here

i have build my own backtrack !

Attached File  soundgarden_black_hole_sun.mp3 ( 8.5MB ) Number of downloads: 8


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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Nov 30 2017, 11:29 PM) *
Great smile.gif Which parts did you create?


no one, in fact i have search for isolated vocal / drum / bass and i have put them togother

now i work and it sound great.

harder to play than listen it ... it seem easy, but it's not

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Hi here

This is an early take, to check the tune between my backtrack and the tabs..

i must work on a lot of stuff, like timing and my R11 presets



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Hi

please, do not fight to help me! Todd ? Gabriel ? any people ?

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Something is very wrong. Your guitar does not sound like it's tuned to the same tuning as the backing track. Either your guitar is just out of tune to itself or out of tune to the backing. Find an open string in the backing and tune to the open string then tune your guitar to that. IT should help wink.gif

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QUOTE (fzalfa @ Dec 2 2017, 04:38 PM) *
Hi here

This is an early take, to check the tune between my backtrack and the tabs..

i must work on a lot of stuff, like timing and my R11 presets



comments and critics welcome !!

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hi Todd

i have check my guitar tune so many times, i tune it in drop D, as it's written in the tabs.... but yes something is really wrong...
backtrack once more ?

it's weird

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I see it stated several places that the original recording was 1/4 step sharp.


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i have notice that: the last chord of the chorum is false in the tabs....

ben: i'll try tuned 1/4 step sharp

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I give up

i have saw some many tuto, lesson, tabs, everyone give one way to play it, and i know how to, but it sound weird with the backtrack....

Any suggestion for another song to learn ?

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