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post Dec 10 2017, 09:00 PM
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Hello folks,

Up until very recently I've always used my guitar volume knob as an on/off device. Whereabouts do you have it turned to for most of your playing and why?

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post Dec 10 2017, 09:31 PM
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When I had a treble bleed, I used to turn it down quite a lot to decrease the drive. The range was nice but what bothered me was I was doing a bit too much search to get a sweetspot.

quitted the tubescreamer and got a plexi type overdrive, I tried removing the bleed and it worked nice for me. Now I don't have the range, but a slight twist that I can almost memorise does the job (if too much it gets muddy).


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post Dec 10 2017, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Dec 10 2017, 08:31 PM) *
quitted the tubescreamer and got a plexi type overdrive, I tried removing the bleed and it worked nice for me. Now I don't have the range, but a slight twist that I can almost memorise does the job (if too much it gets muddy).


Sorry buddy, I don't understand unsure.gif


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post Dec 10 2017, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 10 2017, 09:11 PM) *
Sorry buddy, I don't understand unsure.gif


No problem smile.gif

Treble bleed; normally when the guitar volume is turned down and you raise the amplifiers volume, the guitars tone gets muddy. This small capasitor added to the volume pot solves this issue (some of your guitars may already have this).

Usually this is requested but the non-treblebleed way worked better for me (atleast with my current setup).

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post Dec 10 2017, 10:54 PM
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In my combo class I have my volume knob lower while doing rhythm and full on while soloing. Kinda works like a volume pedal

I also really like to be on a gain channel but with the volume of the guitar down, to that dat dirt crispy clean.

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post Dec 10 2017, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (MonkeyDAthos @ Dec 10 2017, 09:54 PM) *
to that dat dirt crispy clean.

Sorry buddy, please explain. smile.gif


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post Dec 10 2017, 11:41 PM
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Especially with normal or 'vintage' output pkups you can have your amp and/or drive pedal set really hot and with a slight twist of your guitar's volume control you can back off the extreme gain and clean up a bit for rhythm tone.

That's the old school way.
Amp all the way up and use your volume control.

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post Dec 10 2017, 11:43 PM
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depending on what Im playing but I often have the volume at about 6-7. I could maybe get the same by tweaking the amp, dunno, but I just seem to like the volume rolled back just a little.
I also kinda dig the Les Paul in the middle position with the bridge volume at 10 and the neck about 3-4... again, theres no theory on this, it just sounds kinds cool to me for some stuff. smile.gif


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QUOTE (bleez @ Dec 10 2017, 03:43 PM) *
I also kinda dig the Les Paul in the middle position with the bridge volume at 10 and the neck about 3-4... again, theres no theory on this, it just sounds kinds cool to me for some stuff. smile.gif

That's the beauty of the Gibson style of electronics. You can really balance between the two pickups. Not only does the tone change but the resistance/ohms of the pickups which in turn changes the 'feel' of the instrument.

Different amps and effects react differently as well to the varying voltage input from the guitar and pickups.

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Dec 10 2017, 08:00 PM) *
Hello folks,

Up until very recently I've always used my guitar volume knob as an on/off device. Whereabouts do you have it turned to for most of your playing and why?

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I use it a lot. Maybe not in the lessons but in my regular playing. Generally to affect the tone and distortion amount which is even to dynamics response and sharpness of the tone. I also often use some kind of Beck inspired "vol fadel in/out". It's same playing tool as any other from the articulation list. As far as I know you Phil I think you would liek to get soem hard ruls on this but unfortunately there are none wink.gif


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post Dec 11 2017, 09:24 PM
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Thanks folks and Darius, you are spot on with the "hard rules" thing, it's my engineering background wink.gif


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post Dec 12 2017, 04:00 AM
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well, I have to use it as a on \off. Playing left handed guitar, they don't make true left handed pots and end up using right pots and wiring them backwards . This rolls the distortion 80 % in by the time your volume is at 2( not much room for error if you are trying to do nice swells ). So there is my gripe for the day
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post Dec 12 2017, 09:00 AM
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It's the one thing that playing through the AXE FX Ultra doesn't do that well. I believe Cliff improved the input section of the Axe Fx 2 in how it interacts with the guitar volume knob.


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I probably use the tone knob a little more frequently.

Recently, I have adopted the habit to first always check if I can tweak whatever sound I am working on with just the guitar knobs - before I start fiddling with the amp knobs.

Unless I have a compressor and/or booster in front of the amp - I will be able to dial in a soft and sweet tone by turning down the volume knob. Typically I will use it for softer breaks, to turn my high-gain sound into a bluesy sound.


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post Dec 13 2017, 02:16 AM
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My MO is similar to others listed here. Rhythm with the volume rolled back a bit so that I have some extra gain and volume reserved for leads without having to stomp an OD or change patches. And the occasional volume swells.

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post Dec 13 2017, 08:12 AM
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All interesting stuff, thanks for discussing smile.gif


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