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Todd Simpson
post Jan 2 2018, 09:16 PM
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Anyone else just hate rendering video? You spend time on the shoot/edit, then hit render. A 3 minute video ends up taking 30 minutes plus to spit out after you put color correction/plugins on the vid. That's on a quad core i7/16gb ram/ssd rig. So the rig is plenty beefy. If it's a 6 minute vid, it can take an hour to render. I guess it's just the universe teaching me patience smile.gif

I suppose I don't have to use cpu heavy color correction plugins, but video looks so much better with a bit of the MOJO plugin on it imho. Without it, vid tends to look just a bit cheap it seems. Here is a quick vid about it if you've never heard of it. It's a great way to give your vids a bit of polish imho but it can be easily overdone just like ozone on audio. This vid claims it's fast to render, that is a LIE. It's fast to preview, does it in real time in premiere. But it's a render hog.

Am I the only guy that gets antzy waiting for vid to render?



here are my cpus just roofed. Rig working it's guts out for a 3 minute vid. Guess I'm gonna need a 12 or 16 core smile.gif
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post Jan 2 2018, 09:26 PM
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Rendering can take a while for sure! I remember just waiting a long time when I was rendering the audio of my A Celestial Voyage demos some years back. Then you render something, realize afterwards you have made a mistake and have to wait yet another 20 minutes.


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post Jan 4 2018, 02:07 AM
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I hear ya! I've had that happen a lot. You miss one little thing and here goes the render again smile.gif It's easy to miss stuff sometimes, especially if you are wrapping up at 4am.

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Rendering can take a while for sure! I remember just waiting a long time when I was rendering the audio of my A Celestial Voyage demos some years back. Then you render something, realize afterwards you have made a mistake and have to wait yet another 20 minutes.



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post Jan 4 2018, 03:42 PM
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There's always something to fix that is hard to hear before a rendering. I for one can keep finding things to fix when I'm listening to what I still always think is "final render".


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post Jan 4 2018, 06:52 PM
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Makes me wish for a 16 core chip. smile.gif Waiting 30 minutes only to hear one tiny thing that I missed somehow is just very frustrating, especially at 4am when you have rendered 3 times. But that's life eh?

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There's always something to fix that is hard to hear before a rendering. I for one can keep finding things to fix when I'm listening to what I still always think is "final render".



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post Jan 4 2018, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 4 2018, 06:52 PM) *
Makes me wish for a 16 core chip. smile.gif Waiting 30 minutes only to hear one tiny thing that I missed somehow is just very frustrating, especially at 4am when you have rendered 3 times. But that's life eh?

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Yeah, I've been looking at specs of new PCs these days, and they blow my current one, which is just a year old, totally out the water. Of course my current one still runs very smoothly, so I can only begin to imagine how one with 28 cores run.


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post Jan 4 2018, 08:33 PM
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I've been eyeballing them as well. My quad i7/16gb ram/1tb ssd was the standard music production rig for years but it's starting to feel sluggish. I really wanna try one of those crazy high core machines to see what the rendering is like. It's got to be like having a rack full of machines in one computer which is a good thing IMHO smile.gif

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Yeah, I've been looking at specs of new PCs these days, and they blow my current one, which is just a year old, totally out the water. Of course my current one still runs very smoothly, so I can only begin to imagine how one with 28 cores run.



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post Jan 4 2018, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Jan 4 2018, 08:33 PM) *
I've been eyeballing them as well. My quad i7/16gb ram/1tb ssd was the standard music production rig for years but it's starting to feel sluggish. I really wanna try one of those crazy high core machines to see what the rendering is like. It's got to be like having a rack full of machines in one computer which is a good thing IMHO smile.gif

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I just looked at one of the Danish sites for making a company build you a computer. It's not that much more expensive than putting it together yourself, I find, but with 28 cores x2 (2 x Intel XEON E5-2680V4 up to 3,3GHz 35MB cache (28 cores), 64 GB DDR4 RAM, and all that you can imagine almost, it runs at a total of about $8.500. I think I'd buy a lesser computer and an Ibanez instead smile.gif


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post Jan 5 2018, 08:14 PM
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can't you use your GPU to render the effects.?

most of the 3d rendering engine use CUDA to render.... and a high end GFX board of CUDA device is far fastrer than CPU...

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post Jan 6 2018, 05:20 AM
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That render time is with cuda enabled sad.gif Magic Bullet looks (color correction) is a render hog. sad.gif

I"m with ben, skip the 8 grand rig. 8 core chips are getting cheap so that probably where to go next.


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can't you use your GPU to render the effects.?

most of the 3d rendering engine use CUDA to render.... and a high end GFX board of CUDA device is far fastrer than CPU...

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post Jan 6 2018, 08:05 PM
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with 3d rendering, my Cuda board ( quadro p6000) is far faster than my 8 core 3.9Ghz xeon.....

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post Jan 6 2018, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE (fzalfa @ Jan 6 2018, 08:05 PM) *
with 3d rendering, my Cuda board ( quadro p6000) is far faster than my 8 core 3.9Ghz xeon.....

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Quadro p6000 says it's about 5.000 euros or more. I can't afford that! That's 4 times as much as my PC was and about 3 times more than my most expensive guitar!


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post Jan 7 2018, 12:11 AM
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Good lord man that's a beast!!!!!! That GPU costs more than my car!! smile.gif
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with 3d rendering, my Cuda board ( quadro p6000) is far faster than my 8 core 3.9Ghz xeon.....

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