G7 B7 Barre Advice Please |
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Feb 22 2019, 09:08 PM
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Hello folks,
I'm really really struggling to hold down the barre chords using this shape: ----3---- Here is a video of me trying to build the chord. This was a few weeks back and I'm no better now. https://youtu.be/fWulpz-BpfY Any tips/hints/advice you can give will be great, thanks. Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE  “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 22 2019, 10:00 PM
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Thanks Ben,
Thumb is in classical position on back of neck, I've tried all sorts of positions for my index finger. https://youtu.be/zo92WU2CMHs -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 23 2019, 07:20 AM
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That's what's called "flat out difficult" so I"m not surprised it's a bit challenging. Your first finger seems to be perhaps to high E.G. Sticking over the top of the neck. Maybe try altering the angle so that your first finger/tip rests on the E string. I always found chords like that easier to play on my Ibby.
Todd QUOTE (Phil66 @ Feb 22 2019, 05:00 PM)  Thanks Ben,
Thumb is in classical position on back of neck, I've tried all sorts of positions for my index finger. https://youtu.be/zo92WU2CMHs |
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Feb 23 2019, 01:06 PM
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Get your index finger jammed up against the 3rd fret and use the edge of it more.
A good way to practice this is to put your index finger flat on the top of the fret and then roll it back onto its side just behind the fret. Then make sure all strings are sounding clearly and then add the other fingers. -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Feb 23 2019, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 23 2019, 12:06 PM) Get your index finger jammed up against the 3rd fret and use the edge of it more. A good way to practice this is to put your index finger flat on the top of the fret and then roll it back onto its side just behind the fret. Then make sure all strings are sounding clearly and then add the other fingers. Thanks buddy, I can get them ringing with just the index finger, it's when I add the other fingers. I'm OK with E shape barre chords but this is another matter. Cheers Phil -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 23 2019, 03:58 PM
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The D string and high E string get muted by the index finger lifting. For some reason the strength isn't improving unless it's some biomechanical issue
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 23 2019, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Feb 23 2019, 05:49 PM) Have you been doing the finger snap workout I used to show on vid chat? It's just another way to add finger power. Just bring your first two fingers to touch your thumb and repeat. Once it makes a snapping sound, you've arrived  Can you show the video please buddy. I'm hoping this is strength and not biomechanical. Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 23 2019, 10:56 PM
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Thanks Rich,
Been trying since end of last year. I though maybe my hand could never do it. It's hard to not put much pressure on because my hands is so tense because of the unusual shape. Thanks for your help though. -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 24 2019, 09:02 PM
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Not much power here Todd, I do get a pop on left hand when I use middle two fingers. Just got back from a weekend away, did a quick vid. Glad you like the pictures on Instagram
 https://youtu.be/ldmWEoLfjmQ UPDATE: After seeing where Rich's index finger is in his first picture I noticed that mine was in between the second and third frets, once I got it snugly up to the fret wire I had a 90% improvement so thanks for that Rich Just need to practise it more now to get consistancy.
This post has been edited by Phil66: Feb 24 2019, 09:14 PM -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 25 2019, 11:46 AM
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Phil
Another thing to think about is, do you really need to play a whole barre chord G7, rather than a partial chord or another voicing, especially on electric guitar. I know you want to be a well rounded guitarist but if you look at many of our favourite guitarists how often do they use a full barre chord... If this is giving you issues, maybe it's a great opportunity to learn other voicings and options. -------------------- My SoundCloud
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Feb 25 2019, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (PosterBoy @ Feb 25 2019, 10:46 AM) Phil Another thing to think about is, do you really need to play a whole barre chord G7, rather than a partial chord or another voicing, especially on electric guitar. I know you want to be a well rounded guitarist but if you look at many of our favourite guitarists how often do they use a full barre chord... If this is giving you issues, maybe it's a great opportunity to learn other voicings and options. Thanks buddy but it's one of my tasks in my mentoring thread with Gab. If it was for something I was "writing" I would probably do a shortcut version. I'm also covering triads based around the chords. Cheers
-------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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Feb 25 2019, 05:01 PM
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Getting ones hand position in a comfy spot is indeed critical. I'm glad you found a more comfy way and big props to Rich! You have a good start on your finger strength. Keep doing this finger drill any time you have a few moments to spare. The more you can work up your finger power, the easier everything on guitar will get.
Todd QUOTE (Phil66 @ Feb 24 2019, 04:02 PM) Not much power here Todd, I do get a pop on left hand when I use middle two fingers. Just got back from a weekend away, did a quick vid. Glad you like the pictures on Instagram
https://youtu.be/ldmWEoLfjmQ UPDATE: After seeing where Rich's index finger is in his first picture I noticed that mine was in between the second and third frets, once I got it snugly up to the fret wire I had a 90% improvement so thanks for that Rich Just need to practise it more now to get consistancy. |
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Feb 25 2019, 07:11 PM
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Root on the E mate.
I have to say that Posterboy mentioned getting my finger up to the fret too but it didn't sink into my head until I was browsing the topic again so sorry for that Posterboy  Cheers -------------------- SEE MY GMC CERTIFICATE “Success is not obtained overnight. It comes in instalments; you get a little bit today, a little bit tomorrow until the whole package is given out. The day you procrastinate, you lose that day's success.” Israelmore Ayivor |
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