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Collab: All 'bout The Song
Kristofer Dahl
Apr 15 2021, 10:04 AM
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First a little background...

...it all started with Cael sharing some amazing chords + progression here. It inspired me to record a jam over it. Then Ken turned into a song foundation which inspired Gab to record a jam.

So it's safe to say we're all a little inspired 😁

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I have started recording some vocals over Ken's backing, and I would like to try a new collab concept - where we work more actively together to build a song.

First, have a listen to what we have got so far:
Attached File  all_bout_the_song_v1.mp3 ( 488.29K ) Number of downloads: 254


Vocals:
I really don’t need a statue
I really don’t like the smell
I feel like it’s going straight to hell



Now, try to think of what you could add to make this first verse sound better.

* maybe a super soft note played with a clean sound?
* maybe that one bent bluesy note?
* maybe a chord
* some rhythm scratch / strum?
* maybe a vocal harmony (using your guitar)
* maybe clap your hands
* maybe say/sing something?
* maybe some noise from your room / guitar
* a cool sound sample
* some virtual instrument from your DAW

As you can see I don't have any specific arrangement in mind, instead I will try whatever you send me - and use whatever I think works best for the song. Hint: it will likely not be a fast solo, especially in the beginning of the tune.

When we have found something that works for this first part we will continue with another song section, and hopefully move forward towards a finished tune in the end 🤩

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For best results, be sure to send me a file without any reverb. However if you just want to share an idea, feel free to leave the reverb on.

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Mertay
Apr 15 2021, 10:57 AM
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Honestly don't know why but when I thought vocals for it the first thing came to me was sweet child in time "haa-huu" section (from 1.50) laugh.gif maybe something like that could be used for outro.

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Kristofer Dahl
Apr 15 2021, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 15 2021, 11:57 AM) *
Honestly don't know why but when I thought vocals for it the first thing came to me was sweet child in time "haa-huu" section (from 1.50) laugh.gif maybe something like that could be used for outro.



Yeah! That might also work well in between something or as a harmony

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Gabriel Leopardi
Apr 15 2021, 05:43 PM
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Having some fun with this backing and with Kris ideas! I hope that this gives you some inspiration!!



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Caelumamittendum
Apr 16 2021, 09:03 AM
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It seems like Gabriel worked on the full track from Ken in his videos. Can this be shared in the first post? Or do we have to work around your vocals in the 20 second audio clip? smile.gif

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Kristofer Dahl
Apr 16 2021, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Apr 16 2021, 10:03 AM) *
It seems like Gabriel worked on the full track from Ken in his videos. Can this be shared in the first post? Or do we have to work around your vocals in the 20 second audio clip? smile.gif


Is it this one you are thinking of? (we are using Ken's backing from your thread)
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=787542

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Caelumamittendum
Apr 16 2021, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 16 2021, 10:14 AM) *
Is it this one you are thinking of? (we are using Ken's backing from your thread)
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=787542


Yes, that one. The original track by Ken is longer than the one you posted, which is only your vocal part. I don't know if it would inspire people to do something over the non-vocal parts if the full track was uploaded in the first post of this topic? smile.gif

EDIT: I just need to read the full post, heh. Sorry, I see what you mean now about working part by part smile.gif

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Kristofer Dahl
Apr 16 2021, 12:15 PM
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Yes, if it turns out this idea does not generate any student takes - we can def do it as a normal collab (heck we could do that either way - if there’s interest for two collabs using the same backing)

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Apr 16 2021, 02:45 PM
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My track was really just an idea or example.
Most of you guys have way more editing skills than me. Please feel free to loop it, cut it up, re-arrange it, re-record it, add to it, etc.

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Gabriel Leopardi
Apr 16 2021, 03:48 PM
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My files!! There is a lot of stuff here. Use only the parts that inspire you. wink.gif

Attached File  Gab_Experimenting_over_the_collab___MIX.mp3 ( 917.58K ) Number of downloads: 43


Attached File  Gab_Experimenting_over_the_collab___ONLY_ME.mp3 ( 917.58K ) Number of downloads: 34


Attached File  Gab_Experimenting_over_the_collab___STEMS.zip ( 2.33MB ) Number of downloads: 33

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Am I going mad?
Is there a D/L for the backing track?
I tried to D/L Kens m4a file but it keeps opening another page that's full of code!!!
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Apr 17 2021, 05:21 PM) *
Am I going mad?
Is there a D/L for the backing track?
I tried to D/L Kens m4a file but it keeps opening another page that's full of code!!!
ohmy.gif


Right click and "save as..." helps smile.gif

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QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Apr 17 2021, 05:39 PM) *
Right click and "save as..." helps smile.gif

Will try that! Thanks Cael!!

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I have also recorded some examples to show you what kind of short phrases can help build a song arrangement:
Attached File  all_bout_the_song_k_examples.mp3 ( 433.8K ) Number of downloads: 31


Here is the guitar only file:
Attached File  all_bout_the_song_k_examples_gui_only.mp3 ( 433.8K ) Number of downloads: 23


I am using the E MAJOR scale, and here is a quick transcription:

00:04
E---------------
B-7/------------
G---------------
D---------------
A---------------
E---------------



00:11
E---------------
B-7brp5---------
G---------------
D---------------
A---------------
E---------------


00:13
E---------------
B---------------
G-6-8---9-11-13-
D-x-x---x-x--x--
A-4-6---7-9--11-
E---------------


I won't be using my recording, so if you want to go ahead and record your own variations of these ideas it's totally fine!

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Caelumamittendum
Apr 19 2021, 09:12 AM
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I'll play around with this maybe tonight or tomorrow - at the very least during the week.

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Here's a quick thing I came up with, it's more of a texture/rhythm combination.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-mix

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-guitar-only

It's only subtle but I feel it works as a texture kinda thing.

I think it needs a compressor on it but I'm not too good at setting them.

I'll try some more stuff in the week, time permitting.

Cheers

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Which satriani song was this? I couldn't remember the name rolleyes.gif

Attached File  whichsatch.mp3 ( 787.08K ) Number of downloads: 32


Edit; found it

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QUOTE (Phil66 @ Apr 19 2021, 10:03 PM) *
Here's a quick thing I came up with, it's more of a texture/rhythm combination.

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-mix

https://soundcloud.com/gmcphil-1/all-bout-the-song-rhythm-1-guitar-only

It's only subtle but I feel it works as a texture kinda thing.

I think it needs a compressor on it but I'm not too good at setting them.

I'll try some more stuff in the week, time permitting.

Cheers


AWESOME!

I knew we would get some creative ideas! Please make this one downloadable so I can start experimenting with it!

QUOTE (Mertay @ Apr 19 2021, 11:06 PM) *
Which satriani song was this? I couldn't remember the name rolleyes.gif

Attached File  whichsatch.mp3 ( 787.08K ) Number of downloads: 32


Edit; found it


Yeah! That's such a classic tune from one of my all time fav instrumental albums.

If only I knew how to get his tone - it's really next to perfect here (if there is such a thing).

I also see some similarities arrangement wise - so I am sure this track can be an inspiration for us.

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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 20 2021, 06:35 AM) *
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Ever since I heard Gab.s first jam can't get satch out of my mind since experimenting smile.gif

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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Apr 20 2021, 07:35 AM) *
AWESOME!

I knew we would get some creative ideas! Please make this one downloadable so I can start experimenting with it!


Sorted buddy, I always forget that rolleyes.gif When I first recorded it, I was listening back and thought "Hmmmm, I can't really hear it" then I muted the guitar track and un muted and I could hear it, it's a strange one how it sits there in the background. It's just the wound strings being played on an open E chord whatever that makes it, I don't know wink.gif

Glad you like it smile.gif

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