2 Tb Usb 3.0 Backup Drive My Experience So Far
Todd Simpson
Sep 26 2021, 12:28 AM
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I bought this Seagate Portable 2 tb usb 3.0 drive as a backup drive. I've also used it to capture and edit HD video. It pushes 100MB/s read/write which is plenty for Hd video. It's NOT an SSD drive which are several times faster. If you edit RAW or 4K footage, this one may not be for you. If you need a small, portable drive to serve as backup/game drive/etc. It's a great value. I've had it several months and so far it's been great!



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Sep 26 2021, 01:10 AM
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I remember looking at those new M.2 NVMe SSDs. I think we spoke about those. Specifically the Samsung EVO 970 or Pro 980.

Here's the Pro 980 2 TB. It's rather expensive of course, at about 380 USD, but read speeds up to 7000 MBps and write speed up to 5100 MPbs.

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-2tb-980-pro/p/20-147-796

At some point I'd like one of those - I do have the slot for it on my motherboard. On the other hand though, I'm gonna have to start swapping parts in my computer in a couple of years anyway. The CPU is getting old (still runs well, but it's not new by any means, and newer games are a struggle), but if I buy a new CPU I'll need a new motherboard too, as my motherboard is old too.

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Sep 26 2021, 03:25 AM
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Those are amazing to be sure. 5,000 MB write speed is insane. The read times are even better as you mentioned. For a boot drive or application drive it would be ideal. Apps would launch instantly. Works great for just about anything as the speed is about as good as it gets. Video editing/etc. If you have a spot on your board for this, it's a great upgrade. Makes waiting a thing of the past smile.gif


QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 25 2021, 08:10 PM) *
I remember looking at those new M.2 NVMe SSDs. I think we spoke about those. Specifically the Samsung EVO 970 or Pro 980.

Here's the Pro 980 2 TB. It's rather expensive of course, at about 380 USD, but read speeds up to 7000 MBps and write speed up to 5100 MPbs.

https://www.newegg.com/samsung-2tb-980-pro/p/20-147-796

At some point I'd like one of those - I do have the slot for it on my motherboard. On the other hand though, I'm gonna have to start swapping parts in my computer in a couple of years anyway. The CPU is getting old (still runs well, but it's not new by any means, and newer games are a struggle), but if I buy a new CPU I'll need a new motherboard too, as my motherboard is old too.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 26 2021, 04:25 AM) *
Those are amazing to be sure. 5,000 MB write speed is insane. The read times are even better as you mentioned. For a boot drive or application drive it would be ideal. Apps would launch instantly. Works great for just about anything as the speed is about as good as it gets. Video editing/etc. If you have a spot on your board for this, it's a great upgrade. Makes waiting a thing of the past smile.gif


Agreed. I do have a slot for it, but it's still rather expensive. I might not go for the 2 TB one, but the 1 TB. It's a bit less expensive.

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I have a one tb as my primary drive in my laptop. It's been big enough so far. would make a great boot drive for sure. operating system and apps would load like lightning.


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Agreed. I do have a slot for it, but it's still rather expensive. I might not go for the 2 TB one, but the 1 TB. It's a bit less expensive.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 27 2021, 02:14 AM) *
I have a one tb as my primary drive in my laptop. It's been big enough so far. would make a great boot drive for sure. operating system and apps would load like lightning.


I'm curious what performance benefits and issues there could be in using those fast NVMe's in DAWs, for VSTs and so on. I do read that they can run a bit hot. Still curious though.

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=516390

Some VST libraries are huge these days, and I wonder how it would work on a NVMe for speed etc. My Superior Drummer 3 libraries take up about 500 GB.

Mixed opinions here, it seems:

https://vi-control.net/community/threads/ss...nvme-ssd.84979/

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I don't have experience, but imagine would need very fast ram so the drive speed won't be bottle necked.

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I don't have experience, but imagine would need very fast ram so the drive speed won't be bottle necked.


Yeah, I don't have money for upgrades at the moment anyway. I've made a deal with my computer that it's gonna last another 2-3 years and not have any breakdowns laugh.gif It's running quite well still, bought it in January 2017, so it's getting older of course, meaning that I probably should start saving up for a new one. Usually aiming for around 1600 USD for a new computer, but depending on the computer landscape, parts and what not, maybe I'll aim for 2000 USD to get a bit more and better parts, so yeah, perhaps time to start saving up just 100 USD a month or so. Maybe NVMe's will be the norm in 2-3 years or they will be better etc smile.gif

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For huge libraries of stuff, a decent external like the one I mentioned should be fine. Once they are loaded in to ram for the instrument being used, it's usually fine. For app launching and the boot OS, really fast drives can be very handy but yes they can get pretty warm. Some folks take them out of external casing just to add heat sinks or add heat sinks on internals after market. These drives are hugely fast. Actually faster than is sometimes even needed. It all depends on the use case of course. As a boot drive, it would be blazing!

As you say though, by the time you are ready for a new rig, they may be just standard hard drives. Some laptops are using them as boot drives already.



QUOTE (Caelumamittendum @ Sep 26 2021, 09:22 PM) *
I'm curious what performance benefits and issues there could be in using those fast NVMe's in DAWs, for VSTs and so on. I do read that they can run a bit hot. Still curious though.

https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=516390

Some VST libraries are huge these days, and I wonder how it would work on a NVMe for speed etc. My Superior Drummer 3 libraries take up about 500 GB.

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https://vi-control.net/community/threads/ss...nvme-ssd.84979/

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Sep 28 2021, 12:31 AM) *
For huge libraries of stuff, a decent external like the one I mentioned should be fine. Once they are loaded in to ram for the instrument being used, it's usually fine. For app launching and the boot OS, really fast drives can be very handy but yes they can get pretty warm. Some folks take them out of external casing just to add heat sinks or add heat sinks on internals after market. These drives are hugely fast. Actually faster than is sometimes even needed. It all depends on the use case of course. As a boot drive, it would be blazing!

As you say though, by the time you are ready for a new rig, they may be just standard hard drives. Some laptops are using them as boot drives already.


Yeah, I did read that the load in could be very quick with these NVMe drives rather than HDD. Almost instant some say. I have an SSD for my OS, so that's fast enough. I mean, it's not really a bother in terms of speed - neither my HDDs or SSD, those fast ones are just one of those things that would be interesting to have. Something for the future maybe. I don't recall if I have more space for RAM, but I have 32 GB at the moment, which is fine for my use. I think 2-3 years from now maybe I'd push for at least 64, but it depends what it's all like at the time. I should start saving up though, you never know. Hopefully the GPU shortage clears up a bit till then as well. That's been going on for a while now, it feels like.

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Very true. Now is not a great time as global shortages due to covid have driven prices up. thats why I was so impressed with the price of the regular little external. The global supply chain should be fixed in a year or two one would hope. I had a 1tb ssd in my laptop as boot drive as I mentioned and it's the best thing I ever did. never going back to non ssd boot drive.

In a couple of years, this stuff should be much much cheaper.


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Yeah, I did read that the load in could be very quick with these NVMe drives rather than HDD. Almost instant some say. I have an SSD for my OS, so that's fast enough. I mean, it's not really a bother in terms of speed - neither my HDDs or SSD, those fast ones are just one of those things that would be interesting to have. Something for the future maybe. I don't recall if I have more space for RAM, but I have 32 GB at the moment, which is fine for my use. I think 2-3 years from now maybe I'd push for at least 64, but it depends what it's all like at the time. I should start saving up though, you never know. Hopefully the GPU shortage clears up a bit till then as well. That's been going on for a while now, it feels like.

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