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The Dual Collab: Team Kris
Kristofer Dahl
Nov 16 2021, 04:46 PM
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If you do not know what this is about -
This idea originates from us brainstorming about a possible new collaboration format/idea.
Check out Cael's student team as well.

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@Gab & @Ken

I am super stoked to get started with this - I think Cael's idea will be a killer springboard for us to get creative with! To recap, here is what we have so far:

Cael's original draft idea



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Attached File  Lonesome_Cowboy_Blues_Idea_GP5.gp5 ( 25.66K ) Number of downloads: 12


Lyrics

Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home

As the valley howls its weeping song
The sun sets sail to foreign shores
But this is where I belong
This is my home

In the valleys you better sleep with eyes unshut
or the wilds will run you out of luck
But this is where I belong
This is my home

Through the valleys 'neath the wasteland wind
I roam these barren lands alone
This is where I belong
This is my home


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How do you guys suggest we start this off? Maybe Ken wants to lay down some guitar tracks to a click track?

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klasaine
Nov 16 2021, 05:08 PM
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I think we should play to Ben's (Cael) basic track of drums, bass and the keyboard pad.

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 16 2021, 05:23 PM
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Makes sense! Cael/Ben sent me these tracks for the the different sections:

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Gabriel Leopardi
Nov 17 2021, 05:42 PM
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Ok guys! I think that Ben did a killer job with this. I already started working on a first mix so we can start building from there. Check your inbox!

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 17 2021, 08:31 PM
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Here is a first outline of the backing which Gab sent me (uploading it here so others can follow the process).

I have started working with Cael's melody and lyrics. I haven't yet decided whether to try do my own thing over it, or follow his ideas more closely (or both!)

The backing is a bit neutral in this moment, so I am hoping Ken will throw some cowboy stuff at it 🤠 so we can start blending our colors!

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Todd Simpson
Nov 17 2021, 09:13 PM
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I like how neutral it is. it can go just about anywhere from here wink.gif I plan on doing takes for both

QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 17 2021, 03:31 PM) *
Here is a first outline of the backing which Gab sent me (uploading it here so others can follow the process).

I have started working with Cael's melody and lyrics. I haven't yet decided whether to try do my own thing over it, or follow his ideas more closely (or both!)

The backing is a bit neutral in this moment, so I am hoping Ken will throw some cowboy stuff at it 🤠 so we can start blending our colors!

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 18 2021, 08:26 AM
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Awesome Todd, looking forward to hearing your takes!

I exported a quick work-in-progress so you can hear what I kind of vocals I am currently working on.

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As the valley holds its weeping song
The sun sets sail to foreign shores
And here is where I used to roam
‘This is what I call my home

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Gabriel Leopardi
Nov 18 2021, 01:52 PM
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Cool!! Great vocals and lyrics Kris!! This is very promising!

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Gabriel Leopardi
Nov 18 2021, 02:20 PM
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Ken send me some cool guitars and this is how I mixed and proccesed them.

There are two lead guitars. One of them is a Nylon guitar which is panned and the other one has a tremolo effect that Ken used. (Soundtoys plugin). I added some EQ, and Reverb (Valhala Vintage Verb).

In the following parts, I tool his guitar and processed it with a weird filter that make it move (it's some kind of irregular phaser, flanger), and added and auto pan to start making the mix more open.

Let me know what you think!


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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 19 2021, 08:36 AM
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Thanks Gab!

Could you send me what you have done so far as midi? I have some ideas I would like to try.

As for the structure, the vocals I recorded above are dense. It's pretty much non stop singing during 4 bars. So after that, it could be cool with some kind of guitar response, and then I could throw in some vocal response as well. So we'd be trading short lines during 4 bars. Just an idea.

Btw you guys don't happen to have a talkbox? 🤠

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Gabriel Leopardi
Nov 19 2021, 03:50 PM
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I think that it sounds good! I can add some guitar lines as well!

This is the midi file which also includes some Cael's stuff that was muted in the last mix: Attached File  The_Dual_Collab_Midi.mid ( 21.08K ) Number of downloads: 7

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Nov 19 2021, 04:04 PM
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Today I'll try an electric bass part.

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 19 2021, 05:49 PM
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Excellent guys! I have started mixing. This style is pretty new to me I will need to approach it with fresh ears.

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Nov 19 2021, 05:53 PM
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Do you want me to do a steel string arpeggio part?
Or do you or Gab want to try one?

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 19 2021, 06:01 PM
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Feel free to try it, I think you have got what it takes to match the style! 😎

Also, that bass will do wonders for the mix I think - I am holding off a little on working the drums until we know how the bass will sound.

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Gabriel Leopardi
Nov 20 2021, 03:14 PM
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Ok guys! This is a new version with Ken's bass and steel guitar. I also added a guitar melody with a weird process starting at 00:53, let me know if you like it! And I also tried adding distorted guitar at 1:23 for the lead melody sections. If it works I could do similar things in the following parts... or maybe we can let this part cleaner and save the distortion for the end.

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klasaine
Nov 20 2021, 06:08 PM
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Both the slide guitar 'lead' and the distorted chords work great Gab.
The big chords could come back in every time the melody returns or maybe just the last time - ?

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Gabriel Leopardi
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Yeah! I think that I'll make them come back every time the melody returns.

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Kristofer Dahl
Nov 22 2021, 11:03 AM
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I had to give this a few days to let the mix sink in, it's still work in progress but let me know if you think this is going in the right direction.

Once I feel comfortable with the sound I'll be able to focus more on the vocals.

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Gabriel Leopardi
Nov 22 2021, 07:40 PM
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It sounds great Kris! I love how dynamic the drums sound now!

Here you can download my distorted rhythm & lead guitars, and synth pad in case you want to add them there.

https://we.tl/t-x2ClBoeNlF

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