Iconic Songs Recorded On Lower End Gear
Todd Simpson
Dec 23 2021, 06:29 AM
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There are tons of songs recorded on questionable gear. The Eurythmics big hit SWEET DREAMS is one of these songs. They bought 5 grand worth of gear and went at it in a rented room in a old church. 3 to 5 is roughly what it costs to start up a home studio from scratch even today once you include computer/software/hardware/etc. Back when this was recorded in the early 80s, major hits were mostly recorded in traditional big budget studios. They bought a very early drum machine, an 8 track tascam and a little mixing console and used the pencil mic they already had for all vocal duties and bam. Huge hit song all the world over. It's a great example of how gear is really not the limiting factor. Great music can find a way to connect with people, even when recorded on less than optimal gear. smile.gif

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It's often the quality of a song that is the most important thing. Not the quality of the gear that recorded it. Sure, great gear never hurts. But having a great song can overcome many things.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Dec 22 2021, 10:29 PM) *
It's often the quality of a song that is the most important thing. Not the quality of the gear that recorded it. Sure, great gear never hurts. But having a great song can overcome many things.

It is ALWAYS the quality of the song that is the most important thing.

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I'm totally agree with you guys. smile.gif
The true is that if someone isn't able or inspired, all the gear in the world won't help them.

I think usually people overestimate what gear they need because are constantly dissatisfied by their own product. It's much easy to have the excuse that you can't shine because you don't have expensive gear than recognizing that your failure come from your own performance, composition and song arranging.

From my point of view any upgrades should happen when you achieve the point where your ideas and skills are limited by your current setup.

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QUOTE (Todd Simpson @ Dec 23 2021, 05:29 AM) *
There are tons of songs recorded on questionable gear. The Eurythmics big hit SWEET DREAMS is one of these songs. They bought 5 grand worth of gear and went at it in a rented room in a old church. 3 to 5 is roughly what it costs to start up a home studio from scratch even today once you include computer/software/hardware/etc. Back when this was recorded in the early 80s, major hits were mostly recorded in traditional big budget studios. They bought a very early drum machine, an 8 track tascam and a little mixing console and used the pencil mic they already had for all vocal duties and bam. Huge hit song all the world over. It's a great example of how gear is really not the limiting factor. Great music can find a way to connect with people, even when recorded on less than optimal gear. smile.gif

It's often the quality of a song that is the most important thing. Not the quality of the gear that recorded it. Sure, great gear never hurts. But having a great song can overcome many things.


And they used to use that album as a reference in high end audio demonstrations, along with Couldn't Stand The Weather by SRV

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Well said smile.gif KEN A well. It really does come down to the quality of ones music, not the price of one's gear.

QUOTE (Monica Gheorghevici @ Dec 23 2021, 11:54 AM) *
I'm totally agree with you guys. smile.gif
The true is that if someone isn't able or inspired, all the gear in the world won't help them.

I think usually people overestimate what gear they need because are constantly dissatisfied by their own product. It's much easy to have the excuse that you can't shine because you don't have expensive gear than recognizing that your failure come from your own performance, composition and song arranging.

From my point of view any upgrades should happen when you achieve the point where your ideas and skills are limited by your current setup.



Very true! He did an amazing job with very little gear imho. It goes to show that great results are possible on modest gear. Also that the song is always the thing no matter what.


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Dave Stewart is one hell of a songwriter, musician, producer etc He really is the whole package.

I'm a great example of having great gear means nothing laugh.gif

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He really is a talented guy. Then again so are you! All this time and I never knew you were such an amazing vocalist!!

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Dave Stewart is one hell of a songwriter, musician, producer etc He really is the whole package.

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Cool, and it just goes to show how budget cannot be an excuse these days. It almost wasn't back in the days, when recording equipment was actually expensive!

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Well said smile.gif The barrier to entry is pretty much gone. Anyone with a laptop can produce music. Really, anyone with an Ipad can produce music, and honestly, anyone with an iphone can produce music! Never before have we been at this level of sophistication in terms of great sounding tools being available for affordable prices. I've seen videos of folks using nothing more than an iphone and a cheap mobile audio interface to create very interesting stuff.

Back in the day when eurythmics did their thing, this kind of gear was still the price of a car. He was breaking grounding to a degree by doing it all DIY and leveraging the tech of the day like that ancient drum machine smile.gif

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Cool, and it just goes to show how budget cannot be an excuse these days. It almost wasn't back in the days, when recording equipment was actually expensive!

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Exactly, if you really want to make music - even the cheapest of gears will allow you to do so.

I guess a used ipad or computer + sound interface might be the best value for money option.

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Equipment has gotten very good. A computer, audio interface and free plugins will get you very far. smile.gif

What are you guys favorite free VSTs? smile.gif

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I still just use the stock logic pro plugins. With a couple of great reverb, compressors, EQ, gain plugins you can do mix-and-match to for an infinite amount of possibilities.

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