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post Sep 10 2007, 02:38 AM
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A bit frustrated at the mo, just learning the Cowboy's from Hell (Pantera) solo and can do the long stretch descending pattern just fine, however, when I try play that standing up, my wrist is at such an awkward angle that I cannot play it comfortably at all.

This doesn't just apply to this solo/song, but to just playing when standing up. My guitar isn't at my feet or anything, but above my waist, and it still causes my wrist to go to near snapping point when I play standing up.

Any suggestions on how to solve this?

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post Sep 10 2007, 02:43 AM
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Make sure the guitar is at a comfortable hight, and then you just practice playing while standing. After a while you wont notice any difference beetween sitting and standing. In the beginning you're just not used to play while standing, its all just a matter of practicing it till you get used to it.

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post Sep 10 2007, 03:32 AM
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basically play standing.. practice makes your wrist adjust and then it feels better..stretch your wrist.. and when your practicing scales and such just try walking around while you do it


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post Sep 10 2007, 04:03 AM
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I cant play some solos when standing up sad.gif i think that my guitar's neck is too big, i dont know...and when after a while of playing (standing) i get a horrible wrist ache in my fretting hand.... sad.gif is this the "Adjustment/Getting used to" process? unsure.gif


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post Sep 10 2007, 04:12 AM
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Try adjusting the strap, maybe lowering the guitar below your waist. Practice standing as much as you can as well, sooner or later it's bound to become more comfortable (not just randomly, of course), and you'll be ready to play on stage.

Fretdancer, I usually get that ache too, but it's when im sitting down, and usually have my thumb in the middle of the neck, and fret the strings from above.


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post Sep 10 2007, 04:32 AM
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If you keep your guitar on right leg when practicing sitting, than you will most likely have troubles playing standing because it totally changes the position of right hand when picking.


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post Sep 10 2007, 04:40 AM
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Sep 10 2007, 03:32 AM) *
If you keep your guitar on right leg when practicing sitting, than you will most likely have troubles playing standing because it totally changes the position of right hand when picking.

I have my guitar on the right leg, but I have never ever(Well, except when I started) had any problems with playing guitar while standing.

I say all this is just a matter of practice.


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post Sep 10 2007, 06:52 AM
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Yeah, the aches are just part of the changing process right now. I had a lot of trouble, too, at first. Now I can casually walk around without looking at the guitar. It just takes a little time.
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post Sep 10 2007, 07:09 AM
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QUOTE (Robin @ Sep 10 2007, 05:40 AM) *
I have my guitar on the right leg, but I have never ever(Well, except when I started) had any problems with playing guitar while standing.

I say all this is just a matter of practice.


The height of the guitar - how low/high you keep it is also important! When you practice sitting your hands are in one position and when you stand - in another position! So it DOES matter.

It all depends on what you play and how much practice you had of both. When i practice at home i play both standing and sitting just to have a bit of both! smile.gif


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post Sep 10 2007, 07:16 AM
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It's also important that the neck is angled about 45° to the floor when standing and sitting. I's a lot more comfortable for the wrist.

Though when sitting it's not as easy to position it angled if you don't play with the guitar body being very high so it can hang from the strap that way. But when standing it's very easy to adjust it to hang like that.

And the wrist should't hurt, at least not much. It really helps to warm the wrist a little before playing. ph34r.gif


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post Sep 10 2007, 07:20 AM
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QUOTE (Anomaly @ Sep 10 2007, 12:16 AM) *
And the wrist should't hurt, at least not much. It really helps to warm the wrist a little before playing. ph34r.gif


i always do that. I dont think its the act of not warming up that gives me the aches, but the position of my wrist... i think...


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post Sep 10 2007, 07:27 AM
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Yeah, I used to have your problem dynamite dude, but my wrist doesnt really ache anymore. I keep my strap pretty low btw.


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post Sep 10 2007, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE (FretDancer69 @ Sep 10 2007, 08:20 AM) *
i always do that. I dont think its the act of not warming up that gives me the aches, but the position of my wrist... i think...


Yeah, probably. Because you stretch the left wrist too far to the left/outwards. This hurts me at least. But you don't need to stretch your wrist too much like that if you keep your guitar neck at 45° from the floor.

My wrist really hurt for quite some time because I over used it in the wrong way. And now it's a lot better and doesn't give me any difficulties playing if I warm up. So, I do have to warm up. It's probably not that important if you're sure you're holding everything right (!) and you start playing slowly and if it doesn't hurt at all.

But I still can't lean on my left hand's palm (with the wrist being bend, though not bend like when playing) because it starts to really hurt long before I put my weight on it. So now I lean on my left hand with a straight wrist - with just the fingers on the surface or lean on my fist.
But when doing something like this which isn't really leaning straight on http://yoga.iloveindia.com/gifs/yoga-poses.jpg biggrin.gif I've heard that then you do need to keep your whole palm on the floor (and finger extended smile.gif ) otherwise that can hurt your wrist too. It doesn't hurt me if I do it either way (with whole palms on the floor or just on my fingers), but I'm going to take the advice. biggrin.gif


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post Sep 15 2007, 03:31 AM
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when i sit down, the guitar is closer to me! and its more comfortable. But when i stood up, it was real hard for sweeps and stuff

so what i did was just tighten the strap closer to me
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post Sep 20 2007, 08:32 AM
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When sitting down, try playing with the guitar on your left leg. I did this and I have no problem playing the same stuff standing up


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post Sep 20 2007, 08:05 PM
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Wrist pain - THAT I can understand but what about pain in the left shoulder while playing standing up??

15 minutes of walking around with the guitar and it starts to hurt like hell sad.gif

Any ideas what to do about that??
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post Sep 20 2007, 08:23 PM
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another option, dedicate yourself to the guitar so much, that you get so great at it that you can take the attitude...."You guys can stand if you want, I am going to load my couch in my pickup truck and put it on stage, if you don't like it, or the audience does not like it, all I can say is, I found a gig when I was looking for this one!".

Now you would have to be pretty darn good to pull that off, but I thought I would just mention it as an option.
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post Sep 20 2007, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (Skyla_Lit @ Sep 20 2007, 01:05 PM) *
Wrist pain - THAT I can understand but what about pain in the left shoulder while playing standing up??

15 minutes of walking around with the guitar and it starts to hurt like hell sad.gif

Any ideas what to do about that??


I'd use as wide a guitar strap as you can find Skyla_lit. Mine is about 2- 2 1/2 inches wide - it helps spread the weight over a wider area of your shoulder and with a Gibson it really does help smile.gif .

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post Sep 20 2007, 08:45 PM
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Guess I'll go for the wider guitar strap smile.gif since playing sitting on a couch all day long might result in other kinds of pain popping up tongue.gif

Let's just hope the widest strap won't be wider than my shoulder)

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post Sep 20 2007, 09:16 PM
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Just do like Steve Harris, nit your own gigantic and soft strap.


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