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post Sep 12 2007, 04:33 AM
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hey muris,
i asked you in your new lesson (stamina) for good licks to increase speed.
you told me to search for yngwie or paul gilbert. i played already some gilbert stuff (metal dog) and now i tried malmsteen's "far beyond the sun".
i know im not good enough to play this song right now but i can practice some party with guitar pros slow down A-B function! smile.gif

but i got stucked now.
heres the problem:
-16-14-13-----------------------------------------------
------------15-14-12---------------------------------
----------------------- 14-13-11-10---------------------
-------------------------------------- --12-11-9-----------
--------------------------------------------------12-11-9-8
--------------------------------------------------------------
the thing is: how can i play the 14,13,11,10 on g string to the 12,11,9 on the D string? i mean which fingers
do i have to use. i use 14(pinkie),13(ring),11(index)-> slide to 10 and then on the d string i use 12(pinkie),11(third),9(index). See my problem? I mean i can play it this way very fast but i also could play on the d string 12(third),11(middle),9(index)- i dont want to learn it the wrong way and alot of the Yngwie licks are like that so could you help me out please?

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post Sep 12 2007, 04:52 AM
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I see it totally and I know this lick very well wink.gif

You should play 11th fret with index finger and then slide down to 10th,all alternate of course. smile.gif
Same deal on A string,ending of lick...9th fret with index and slide down to 8th.
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post Sep 12 2007, 05:18 AM
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sry u didnt get my problem i think my english is not that good ;D
i got stucked with my fingering. i dont know how to play this:
-16-14-13-----------------------------------------------(e)
------------15-14-12--------------------------------- (h/b)
here i have the same problem like here:
----------------------- 14-13-11-10---------------------(g)
-------------------------------------- --12-11-9-----------(d)
the thing is that there is this step.. it is not 14-13-11-10
13.......etc.
it is 14-13-11-10
12 !!! etc..
so shall i start the 12 with the ring or the pinkie?
thx!
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post Sep 12 2007, 05:21 AM
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You should start every time with pinky,in my opinion. smile.gif


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post Sep 12 2007, 05:24 AM
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pfu ok so i practiced it right i guess biggrin.gif
thx for you fast answers !
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post Sep 12 2007, 05:26 AM
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QUOTE (muris @ Sep 12 2007, 06:21 AM) *
You should start every time with pinky,in my opinion. smile.gif



Maybe Yngwie plays stuff like 12 11 9 with ring,middle and index(it is sort of faster way),
but I think you should use pinky as much as possible.
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post Sep 12 2007, 05:57 AM
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I would play it with pinky and no sliding. Just use all 4 fingers and start D string with pinky.


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post Sep 12 2007, 06:07 AM
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It's box shifting,no need to use all 4 fingers wink.gif


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post Sep 12 2007, 06:26 AM
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ah cool the therie issue biggrin.gif
which key is it?

i go sleep now see you tomorrow and thanks for your help!

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post Sep 12 2007, 06:29 AM
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F# minor wink.gif

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post Sep 12 2007, 10:34 PM
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sry muris dont get it. why f# minor.. so in this song every string is tuned down 1/2 note. so do you read the fretboard normal or minus a half note?
can it be that there are some notes that dont belong in the f# minor scale?
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post Sep 13 2007, 12:42 AM
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Yeah,Yngwie usually tunes his guitar down half of tone,1/2.
So it sounds like F minor but position on fretboard is from F# minor. smile.gif


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post Sep 13 2007, 06:00 AM
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ah yes now i can see the f# minor scale in the song!
hmm do you know why he always plays the f (e- if not tuned down)? because it regularly doesnt belong to the scale box? i mean it has this neoclassical feel in it but is this the general reason to use it?
the played f would be the 7th(dont know if 7th is right in germany its "septime" huh.gif ) compared to the f# sclae, right?
So i could guess that Yngwie uses the 7th, because its a cool neoclassical tool? laugh.gif
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post Sep 13 2007, 06:07 AM
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That note(it's E# tho,not F) is 7th degree of F# harmonic minor.
Harmonic minor has sharp 7th degree,comparing to natural minor.
You noticed it well,Yngwie plays over harmonic minor almost all the time
and it IS sort of neo-classical "must have" tool. smile.gif


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post Sep 13 2007, 06:12 AM
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i agree with you but for me e# and f are the same o.O
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post Sep 13 2007, 06:14 AM
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Sure,they sound the same,absolutely right.
Difference is when you write it in notation,that's all wink.gif


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post Sep 13 2007, 06:19 AM
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yeah!
thanks dude! I guess its good to play and understand @ the same time- so that i have less work afterwards smile.gif

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Of course!!
Knowing of theory is important,for composing,jamming,improvising etc smile.gif
Let me know if you need anything else!!
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post Sep 14 2007, 05:47 AM
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yeah cool thanks ill go to austria next week (holidays) and i want to do 2 weeks therie + some malmsteen stuff only biggrin.gif
so be prepared for some questions smile.gif

thanks for your help

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post Sep 14 2007, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE ([email protected] @ Sep 14 2007, 06:47 AM) *
yeah cool thanks ill go to austria next week (holidays) and i want to do 2 weeks therie + some malmsteen stuff only biggrin.gif
so be prepared for some questions smile.gif

thanks for your help

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