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Eat-Sleep-andJam
Sep 17 2007, 07:31 AM
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I was watching this videoof Eric Johnson and he was talking about picking technique and at around 2:42 he talks about a picking technique called " Circle Picking" . Ive never really heard of this picking technique before and dont quite understand how its done. Any Insight on this ?



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QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ Sep 17 2007, 01:31 AM) *
I was watching this video of Eric Johnson and he was talking about picking technique and at around 2:42 he talks about a picking technique called " Circle Picking" . Ive never really heard of this picking technique before and dont quite understand how its done. Any Insight on this ?
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That sounds very interesting.

O yeah, that video is Steve Vai competition, not Eric Johson.

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Are you sure you posted the correct link? http://www.lickspace.com/Video/PlayVideo.a...=6lqmBl49YYg%3d

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Ryan
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Maybe its his way of saying Sweep Picking?!?!?!? Just a guess.

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Sep 17 2007, 07:50 AM
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weres the video?

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hmmm my bad tongue.gif one sec Ill get the right video


edit: done , now I wont look so retarded, I get lost in all my links tongue.gif

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Circle picking refers to the motion of the pick relative to a single string. When I pick a string the plectrum moves in a straight line back and forth. In circle picking it should go through a little circle centered on the string. Circle picking is supposed to be faster then 'normal' picking can't say if it is though as it's not a technique I've ever tried.

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Interesting. I like his hair.

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Mullets are pretty sexy imo biggrin.gif tongue.gif , but the whole circle picking thing interests me ? huh.gif


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Robin
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When I think about it, I've used this technique for a while already, when speedpicking. Depends a little on what I play. I didnt think about it untill now.

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It looks just like Alternate Picking!!

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QUOTE (Ryan @ Sep 17 2007, 07:40 AM) *
It looks just like Alternate Picking!!

Its pretty much the same, just that you move the pick a little back and forth. Thats how I understood it atleast tongue.gif

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Eric tried to explain playing from the thumb instead from the wrist.
It's still regular alternate picking without moving whole hand a lot over bridge.
I prefer from the wrist tho. smile.gif
Oh,and yes,I haven't seen Eric plays this "circle" stuff much often either. wink.gif

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Robin has it. This is a very old style. I'm not sure that it is faster. I tried it a few months ago, just don't care for it I think, did not feel it gave me an advantage. Others might, if it feels good to you. Keep in mind that it evolved long before people started playing at the speeds they play today. And being a Texan, Eric certainly was exposed to something like this, it really evolved I think in country music, and maybe jazz. In the old days the really good guitarists often played both. I might try it again sometime. It is not really a circle, call it a fairly flat ellipses.

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I think Marty Friedman mentioned this technique and uses it.

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QUOTE (fkalich @ Sep 17 2007, 12:05 AM) *
Robin has it. This is a very old style. I'm not sure that it is faster. I tried it a few months ago, just don't care for it I think, did not feel it gave me an advantage. Others might, if it feels good to you. Keep in mind that it evolved long before people started playing at the speeds they play today. And being a Texan, Eric certainly was exposed to something like this, it really evolved I think in country music, and maybe jazz. In the old days the really good guitarists often played both. I might try it again sometime. It is not really a circle, call it a fairly flat ellipses.



Hmm so it looks like it is basically a substitute for playing from the wrist. Ill probably try it tommarow, looks interesting at the most smile.gif


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I just noticed i use this Techinque naturally. I thought everybody did it like this. I use my thumb instead of my wrist. I just cant control the wrist, but damn. Tahts pretty cool i use teh Circle Technqiue. But then again i better start workign on using my wrist 2.

I think anyways. I mean i look. and im using my thumb moving it back and forth, but when going up and down the string my wrist moves. Nothign like pavels htough. But yeah im pretty sure i use the circle techinque.

If i do. then i must admit, You have more control over things.

I believe I do, cus what i just tried doing, was I held my wrist with my left hand, and then i picked normally, and it made no differecne, if my wrist was locked down from moving, i cousl still pick the exact same. Hmm

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QUOTE (Ryan @ Sep 17 2007, 10:16 AM) *
I just noticed i use this Techinque naturally. I thought everybody did it like this. I use my thumb instead of my wrist. I just cant control the wrist, but damn. Tahts pretty cool i use teh Circle Technqiue. But then again i better start workign on using my wrist 2.

I think anyways. I mean i look. and im using my thumb moving it back and forth, but when going up and down the string my wrist moves. Nothign like pavels htough. But yeah im pretty sure i use the circle techinque.

If i do. then i must admit, You have more control over things.

I believe I do, cus what i just tried doing, was I held my wrist with my left hand, and then i picked normally, and it made no differecne, if my wrist was locked down from moving, i cousl still pick the exact same. Hmm



Yeah,many use it instead of playing from wrist.
Just take what you feel most comfortable with,and that's it. smile.gif

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QUOTE (muris @ Sep 17 2007, 03:33 AM) *
Yeah,many use it instead of playing from wrist.
Just take what you feel most comfortable with,and that's it. smile.gif

But I feel like im missing out on a lot without using my wrist sad.gif. Im nervous to procced like that. I mean i have TONS more control when string skipping and all that, and just moving all about the fretboard, im almost spot on when string skipping. But when i use my wrist, its like "ahhhhh". But i can play so much faster!!

Am i missing out on anything?

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QUOTE (Ryan @ Sep 17 2007, 10:39 AM) *
Am i missing out on anything?


Think so,yeah sad.gif
It's impossible to play many rhythm chops with moving only from thumb,same with skipping as you said.
Try to focus on wrist from now,and use thumb just a bit here and there,my suggestion. smile.gif

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