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post Sep 23 2007, 11:01 AM
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Hello everybody out there in Shred heaven, would any of you happen to know some good computer graphics cards for under $200?

Im looking to get hopefully ATI or GeForce, minium 256MB Maxium 512MB, and of course, compatible with windows, Since the "Orange Box" is coming out (Ships to my house on the 10th!!) im wanting a little extra juice for my computer, any recommendations?
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post Sep 23 2007, 11:12 AM
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I have this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102061

It's served me well, able to run all the latest games with good graphics. I can run Oblivion, for example, on max (with 2gb of ram)

Or you can get this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102071

With an extra 256mb of memory, which is about what I payed for the other one. They're cheaper now that the dx10 cards are coming out.


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post Sep 23 2007, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Sep 23 2007, 06:01 AM) *
Hello everybody out there in Shred heaven, would any of you happen to know some good computer graphics cards for under $200?

Im looking to get hopefully ATI or GeForce, minium 256MB Maxium 512MB, and of course, compatible with windows, Since the "Orange Box" is coming out (Ships to my house on the 10th!!) im wanting a little extra juice for my computer, any recommendations?


Go with an EVGA card, I promise you once you buy an EVGA graphics card you wil never ever buy another kind of card. When I built my new computer a year ago I decided to go with an EVGA becuase some people on Toms Hardware told me they were good. I put one in the computer and it was a great card, after awhile I could no longer stay online playing the beta of lord of the the rings online. I found out it was the graphics card, EVGA customer service was the best I had ever seen, they not only replaced my card no questions asked, they gave me an upgraded card for my trouble. I'm not saying that they do this for everyone who has a bad card but from my experience dealing with hardware companies EVGA was a breath of fresh air.

If you don't go EVGA you're nuts! Go to newegg.com and find the one you need, they have the best prices on the internet.

Try this one if your computer is PCI Express capable: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814130286

Not sure how to enter thsat as a link? Maybe because I entered the link during an edit?

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post Sep 23 2007, 01:42 PM
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I've got a GeForce 6600, it won't run anything like R6: Vegas well but it can take HL2 on High easily. It's also fairly cheap, especially at TigerDirect.com


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post Sep 23 2007, 04:44 PM
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I have the ATI X800XT 256 meg - i know its not new any more put its probably around your price range and its a pretty good card!


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post Sep 23 2007, 09:24 PM
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Alright thanks for all the links! smile.gif
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post Sep 23 2007, 10:28 PM
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Hi Uncreator,
all the above are great if you have a PCI express. My general pc mobo doesn't - it only has pci. Best (in the sense of it supports highish quality 3D - good enough for games like Oblivion) pci card I've found is an ATI Radeon X1650. If you have a newish mobo though you've probably got a pci-e slot but might be worth checking before you lay out cash.

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QUOTE (JVM @ Sep 23 2007, 11:12 AM) *
I have this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102061

It's served me well, able to run all the latest games with good graphics. I can run Oblivion, for example, on max (with 2gb of ram)

Or you can get this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814102071

With an extra 256mb of memory, which is about what I payed for the other one. They're cheaper now that the dx10 cards are coming out.



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I've heard a few people recommending the ATI X1950PRO in this price range. The more powerful X1950XT might just have come down enough to be in The Uncreators budget too. I think this range of cards is available for both PCI-E and AGP motherboards, but you'll probably pay more for AGP these days.


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post Sep 24 2007, 01:58 AM
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The 'pro' suffix denotes that its a less powerful version of the x1950 line, it's more in line with a high powered x1900, but still a very nice card. It came with rainbow six vegas, and it runs it really well. Fun game tongue.gif

The x1950xt is still about $270, and the x1950xtx is around $370.


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post Sep 24 2007, 11:01 AM
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Yeah $270 is a little steep, i still gotta pop open my computer and check out the motherboard, see what i can put into it. I dont need this to play liie Oblivion on super ultra high settings, im getting this, so i can run my games i already have smoother, i can run half life 2 on high, but it lags a bit on the outside parts, enough to annoy me, and since Episode Two comes out soon, im getting a new one so i can avoid this.
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Promise you the x1950pro will do that and more for you, for under your budget. What kind of computer do you have? If so I may be able to find out exactly what will fit for you.

[edit] ALSO! I forgot to ask. How much RAM do you have? It may be that your problem is from a lack of ram and that your graphics card is pretty decent.

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post Sep 24 2007, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Sep 24 2007, 01:58 AM) *
The 'pro' suffix denotes that its a less powerful version of the x1950 line, it's more in line with a high powered x1900, but still a very nice card. It came with rainbow six vegas, and it runs it really well. Fun game tongue.gif

The x1950xt is still about $270, and the x1950xtx is around $370.



Newegg is advertising a PCI-E 512Mb X1950XT for $200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16814241063

Don't know how it compares quality-wise with some of the bigger brand cards. A similar AGP card seems to be about $260.

I agree that the X1950PRO is still a good card for the money.


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post Sep 24 2007, 10:36 PM
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I have Sapphire X1950XT and it kicks ass!! It was 300$ 8 months ago so i guess it is MUCH cheaper now!!


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post Sep 25 2007, 12:55 AM
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I never understood the jump to PCI-E, theres no real performance gain between that and AGP despite the extra available potential bandwidth. Always seems like a way to push more motherboards and new cards unsure.gif


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Same here Matt,
tbh I'd prefer a silent video card that runs cool to a mega pixel number cruncher that was noisy and needed extra cooling. (At the end of the day I spend more time playing solitaire then Oblivion anyway laugh.gif )

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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Sep 25 2007, 01:55 AM) *
I never understood the jump to PCI-E, theres no real performance gain between that and AGP despite the extra available potential bandwidth. Always seems like a way to push more motherboards and new cards unsure.gif


PCI Express offers a huge jump in performance especially in Memory Clock speeds. Having a PCI-E card boosted my friend's in-game performances unbelievably.

I was using 1900Pro AGP graphic card for years and i was never able to set high settings in any game. Now when i am on totally new system, with X1950XT on PCI-E it PWNZ every game. No limits for me now. Keep in mind that i always had processor over 2Ghz and 1 Gig of RAM.

So, PCI-E DOES make a difference! smile.gif


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QUOTE (Pavel @ Sep 25 2007, 04:08 AM) *
PCI Express offers a huge jump in performance especially in Memory Clock speeds. Having a PCI-E card boosted my friend's in-game performances unbelievably.

I was using 1900Pro AGP graphic card for years and i was never able to set high settings in any game. Now when i am on totally new system, with X1950XT on PCI-E it PWNZ every game. No limits for me now. Keep in mind that i always had processor over 2Ghz and 1 Gig of RAM.

So, PCI-E DOES make a difference! smile.gif



I think that some of the extra performance you're seeing is due to the extra shading hardware, faster graphics core speed and faster graphics memory speed of the XT over the earlier Pro series. I'm not saying that PCI-E doesn't make a difference, but your new card is an improvement in just about every area. biggrin.gif


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Yeah! But i also have a friend who just bought a card which is AGP (no money for new system) and it's like a good graphic card but still sucks! smile.gif The data bandwidth is just too big to compare them.


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QUOTE (Pavel @ Sep 25 2007, 06:41 AM) *
Yeah! But i also have a friend who just bought a card which is AGP (no money for new system) and it's like a good graphic card but still sucks! smile.gif The data bandwidth is just too big to compare them.



Yeah, the maximum bandwidth of PCI-E x16 is quite a lot higher than AGP 8x. The bottleneck has moved away from the graphics card bus back to the graphics core and memory system. Keeps all those chip designers at ATI/AMD and Nvidia busy biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Resurrection @ Sep 25 2007, 02:11 AM) *
Yeah, the maximum bandwidth of PCI-E x16 is quite a lot higher than AGP 8x. The bottleneck has moved away from the graphics card bus back to the graphics core and memory system. Keeps all those chip designers at ATI/AMD and Nvidia busy biggrin.gif



Besides you forget SLI, need I say more?


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