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Muris Varajic
post Mar 26 2008, 12:53 PM
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Done wink.gif

Now we're on 7,next week it'll be 14 etc,great job Eddie! smile.gif


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post Apr 11 2008, 09:14 AM
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Hi Muris, how are you doing? I hope all is well and that you're enjoying your life.
I'm practicing hard and now I think I can say I can play all the 7 major modes
on the whole fretboard in 2 and 3nps shapes, but always and only starting from the root note I choose.
Do you have any tips on how to break free from this "root note slavery" I'm in?
Hope you understand my point.

All the best, Eddie.
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post Apr 12 2008, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Apr 11 2008, 10:14 AM) *
Hi Muris, how are you doing? I hope all is well and that you're enjoying your life.
I'm practicing hard and now I think I can say I can play all the 7 major modes
on the whole fretboard in 2 and 3nps shapes, but always and only starting from the root note I choose.
Do you have any tips on how to break free from this "root note slavery" I'm in?
Hope you understand my point.

All the best, Eddie.


I know you are very busy at the moment but...
no tips? (see my previous post)

Eddie
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Muris Varajic
post Apr 12 2008, 04:01 PM
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Sorry for waiting Eddie! smile.gif

This issue usually comes when you are practicing scales just like scales,
I had same problem years ago tho. wink.gif

Main idea is to play bunch of solos and licks using different scales modes.
It can be your own work or material by other guitarists,doesn't matter.
That way you'll be more free to start not only from root as those
lick and solos are starting from different degrees.

But you can do similar exercise by yourself as well.
Take some scale or mode per example,one position and start playing it
using all strings as a starting point,not only low E which is most common I guess.
Then change positions and do the same using different strings to start,through all 7 position.
Incorporate that into every scale you're practicing!

Keep me updated on this! smile.gif


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post Jun 6 2008, 06:11 AM
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Hi Muris, long time not seen! But I have so much to practice... biggrin.gif
Thank you so much for your advice, now my mode knowledge is much better.
I now have 7 BTs for the 7 modes and what I do is I loop the BT of the mode I want to practice
and just improvise over it and know what? Now I don't always start from the root note!
The only thing I do is I visualize where the root notes are before I start
and then I "think" in terms of degrees.
That's all good I guess, but one thing bothers me:
my comfortable speed is stuck at 16th notes at 100 bpms'. Really frustrating...
Any hints?

Thank you and good luck for London!
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post Jun 6 2008, 12:37 PM
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Hi Eddie,it's always good to hear from you! smile.gif

You did good job with looping backings,
easy to practice and I'm very glad you hear
that you're not starting only from root now,
visualizing fretboard and locating root is a smart way,
well done Eddie!

About speed,well,not sure if I can share some
words of wisdom here,it'll come with the time,
just practice,speed is all about practicing. smile.gif

Ohh,and thanks for your warm wishes for London Eddie,
well appreciated!!!

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Hi Muris, everything alright? Getting ready for the big day?
My question is not exactly about modes, but it came up while practicing them:
whatever mode I'm practicing, there will always be the 3 minor mode shapes, let me explain.
If I'm playing a C Ionian, there will also be within the D dorian, E phrygian and A aeolian shapes,
and over those shapes their respective minor pentatonic shapes will work.
So is it correct to say that there always are three different minor pentatonics within a mode?
I mean, if I play Cmaj pentatonic 2nd shape starting from D it sounds good,
but also if I start Dmin pentatonic 1st shape starting from D it sounds good!
I found that combining the two gives me some nice melodic ideas...
Am I wrong? Is there something I don't get?

I hope it's clear enough...

Eddie

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Absolutely right Eddie,there are always 3 pentatonic scales
inside regular modes,or 3 major pentatonics if you try with relative majors,same notes. smile.gif


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Thank you Muris!
I'm damn glad I heard it right!
Just to let you know that I'm having a lot of fun with this new discovery!
Still stuck with understanding and hearing extended chords! mad.gif
Thank you... Eddie
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post Jun 10 2008, 10:09 PM
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Regarding that there's a total of 3 minor and 3 major pentatonic boxes in a regular church scale. I believe that Muris made a lesson on this (pentatonic substitution) or something. Check it out, it's a killer.


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QUOTE (Oxac @ Jun 10 2008, 11:09 PM) *
Regarding that there's a total of 3 minor and 3 major pentatonic boxes in a regular church scale. I believe that Muris made a lesson on this (pentatonic substitution) or something. Check it out, it's a killer.


Thank you Oxac...
Yes, I know what lesson you're talking about, (I skipped it immediately because it's far too difficult)
but I never understood what it meant until now! biggrin.gif
And I'm really glad I found out without anyone telling me!
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QUOTE (eddiecat @ Jun 11 2008, 07:02 AM) *
Thank you Oxac...
Yes, I know what lesson you're talking about, (I skipped it immediately because it's far too difficult)
but I never understood what it meant until now! biggrin.gif
And I'm really glad I found out without anyone telling me!
Ciao


One thing Eddie,that lesson is not pure example
about what we were talking about.
Chords are changing and I'm following each of them
with proper pentatonic scale.
What we were talking about is use of 3 pentas over same chord,root chord per example.
Lets say we're in key of Am and Am chord is playing all the time,
that means we can use A,D and E minor pentatonics.
But if we are in A Dorian with Am chord playing as well,
then we have A,B and E minor pentatonics as options.
Try all this and more using all modes.

Thank for hint Oxac,I almost forgot about that lesson. smile.gif


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