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RobM
post Oct 5 2007, 04:40 AM
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As you most likely already know I just bought a new Ibanez RG 1570 Prestige. I was playing it today and noticed that the thing sounded a tad bit out of tune so I checked it, sure enough the B, G and A strings were a little sharp, not much mind you but still the guitar is out of tune. My question/problem is that I'm not totally sure what to do and I'm afraid to do anything for fear of scewing the whole guitar up.


At this point do I just loosen the string lock down near the nut for the specific string that is out of tune, then turn the fine tuner until it's in tune, then once its in tune just tighten the lock down again? Go to the next string and do the same until they are all in tune?

The guitar plays like a dream, but should it have been setup before I took it home by the dealer?( do Ibanez guitars come already setup?) Generally speaking what would it cost to have a new guitar setup? Would I have to bring it to a certified Ibanez repair person so I don't void my warranty?

Anything else you can give me for advice for a edge pro bridge?


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post Oct 5 2007, 04:41 AM
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Check the Gear FAQ or what's pinned in the gear forum. There's an explanation there.

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Look in section "2. Changing Strings on a Floyd Rose 1 2"

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in short, the idea is to balance the brigde aligned with the body. If you open the hatch on th eback of the guitar there's two screws into the body that holds the tremolo by putting tension to the springs. how much tension depends on how far in ot out the screws are.
These must be adjusted to set the tremolo aligned.
Also when you tune all strings thta will affect the over all tension.

You're supposed to find the balance between tuning and the screws.

ALL of this is done AFTER you first loosen the locking nuts (by the head stock)

EDIT3: And once you got it tuned and aligned and change into strings of the same kind/thickness there should be no further problem.

EDIT4: Your problem could also come from new strings that have to get settled first, stretched I mean.

EDIT5: The set up of the tremolo (aligned i.e.) is done with the fine tuners set in the middle and the tunes is from adjusting the machine heads.

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post Oct 5 2007, 04:51 AM
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If all you want to do is tune it - use the fine tuners on the bridge. You don;t need to slacken the plate at the neck unless you run out of adjustment on the fine tuners.

EDIT 1 : I got it right first time wink.gif

EDIT 2 : Really laugh.gif

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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 5 2007, 05:51 AM) *
If all you want to do is tune it - use the fine tuners on the bridge. You don;t need to slacken the plate at the neck unless you run out of adjustment on the fine tuners.

That was what I was trying to say... laugh.gif

j/k when and if you got the tremolo aligned just do the fine tuning.


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post Oct 5 2007, 04:54 AM
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Guitars can't be set-up by the factory itself because each player sets the guitar for himself with different requirements. Also in process of transportation and handling all over the world (Ibanez is made in Japan and Korea) guitar sure will get detuned and the "perfect" set-up will go down. Each real guitar player must know how to set up the guitar himself, because only you know what you want so i suggest you spend some time and actually learn how to do all the tuning, bridge adjustments, string height and all the stuff on your own so you are your own boss smile.gif


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QUOTE (Pavel @ Oct 5 2007, 05:54 AM) *
Guitars can't be set-up by the factory itself because each player sets the guitar for himself with different requirements. Also in process of transportation and handling all over the world (Ibanez is made in Japan and Korea) guitar sure will get detuned and the "perfect" set-up will go down. Each real guitar player must know how to set up the guitar himself, because only you know what you want so i suggest you spend some time and actually learn how to do all the tuning, bridge adjustments, string height and all the stuff on your own so you are your own boss smile.gif

That's a good idea to fool around with the tremolo, see what happens when you do this and that. Understand and learn!

To drive a car you need to know how to start it, steer, shift gear, increase speed, brake, fule it up etc. Same thing here really, to enjoy the guitar fully you should know how all parts work.


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I was afraid of changing strings on guitar until i actually put the guitar apart. Once i took off the bridge and saw that it is just a piece of metal, i was never afraid of setting up my guitar myself.

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QUOTE (Pavel @ Oct 5 2007, 06:10 AM) *
I was afraid of changing strings on guitar until i actually put the guitar apart. Once i took off the bridge and saw that it is just a piece of metal, i was never afraid of setting up my guitar myself.

No magic inside? ohmy.gif

I did the same thing. On my first FR trem I kept tightening the strings until the trem pointed almost 45 degrees up. Then I decided it was time to take a closer look. Took me a couple of hours to get it right that first time but after that, it's nothing.


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QUOTE (MickeM @ Oct 5 2007, 12:00 AM) *
That's a good idea to fool around with the tremolo, see what happens when you do this and that. Understand and learn!

To drive a car you need to know how to start it, steer, shift gear, increase speed, brake, fule it up etc. Same thing here really, to enjoy the guitar fully you should know how all parts work.



I don't like you guys, you play too rough. J/King of course, but I was afraid that you would tell me that. What I'm afraid of is getting the thing so screwed up that I can never bring it back again and then have to take it to service guy(Luthier) to get it fixed and then have to hear him tell me that I shouldn't have screwed with it in the first place.

I've read everything I can find on the floating tremolo system, it just sounds like a pain in the arse.


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Rob
if it was from a shop get THEM to set it up - which they really should have done in the first place - for the gauge and brand of strings you like and use.

As MickeM is saying earlier make sure that they set the bridge so it's horizontal. After that it's either down to you or you'll have to pay a tech, somewhere on the board (think this is MickeM's link) ins a very good link to a site on how to set up an Ibanez floating bridge, from getting it horizontal to fine tuning etc. What ever you do it's well worth a read. It's worth a read even if you have a fixed bridge imo.

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