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post Oct 19 2007, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Oct 19 2007, 02:53 AM) *
Thats what is best for her. To stay away from her parents. And to be with me. Even ask her. I would swear on everythign, thats where she belongs is with me. She would to. She doenst want to live with some strange family, or be with her parents. She just wants me. So the best hting i can do. Is get it so she can be with me.

Hmm theres a lot of me's up there. But Im in no way selfish, and doing it for myself. this is all for her.
I was hoping that would come up. And if that does happen. Wouldnt that be like insest or something on our part?? I mean ti wouldnt be cus we are in no way blood related, but of being regonzied by the courts?? Would that be considered that?
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when she is old enough and ready to live on her own, your parents could sign papers to emancipate her, so under law they would no longer be her parents, or legal guaridans. so by law, it would not be incest.

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post Oct 19 2007, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Oct 19 2007, 03:58 AM) *
i hihgly doubt this, when she is old enough her foster parents would be referred to as her guardians, not biological parents. in courts, i think this stuff is understood.

Yes, like I said. Talk to your parents, try to get them involved. Your parents could very well become her guardian without the adoption process. Adoption process takes a a long time and I don't think that is the right way to go.

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post Oct 19 2007, 12:04 PM
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I dont know what its called, but theres a word for the much shorter process of a minor being put into another familys care, not as adoption or as foster care, but it can be done, and its not out of reach.
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE (Soul_Decision @ Oct 19 2007, 05:55 AM) *
Yes it would be incest even though you are not blood related

I'm adopted by the way.

ewww thats wrong. Thats defnilty not a choice. Anyways doesnt it take a like a year, for parents to become Foster parents anyways ro soemthign?? By that time it woudl be to late anyways. ewww NOO WAY!!

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I dont know what its called, but theres a word for the much shorter process of a minor being put into another familys care, not as adoption or as foster care, but it can be done, and its not out of reach.

Really, can you help me in finding out of what that is? And if its possible, how would I set things in motion to get this kind of stuff happening?


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post Oct 19 2007, 12:08 PM
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Thats why when she is ready yo support herself, she can be emancipated, so, atleast by deductive and logical reasoning, your parents, under law, would not be her parents.

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Really, can you help me in finding out of what that is? And if its possible, how would I set things in motion to get this kind of stuff happening?


Best thing to do is to talk to someone who knows more about law than I. Social services should have this information readily available.

Honestly, your parents might know what this is, and how it can be done, if this a choice to be considered, let alone played out, you should really talk to them, let them know how much this means to you. They could be the factor that truly helps you out.
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:10 PM
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You should talk to your parents right now.


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post Oct 19 2007, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE (Soul_Decision @ Oct 19 2007, 03:10 AM) *
You should talk to your parents right now.


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Seriously, talk to them, explain this situation.
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Soul_Decision @ Oct 19 2007, 06:10 AM) *
You should talk to your parents right now.

There the ones that made her turn herself in. So there already all in for this. Im just not for sure really on how much there really gonna help. They never did before except talk about things!!


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post Oct 19 2007, 12:14 PM
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Then you have to find out.

Tell them words wont solve this, action must be taken, and you need there help.
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Oct 19 2007, 04:13 AM) *
There the ones that made her turn herself in. So there already all in for this. Im just not for sure really on how much there really gonna help. They never did before except talk about things!!

Still, talk to them right now and what the are willing to do. From what you said, I think they will help you.


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post Oct 19 2007, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Oct 19 2007, 06:14 AM) *
Then you have to find out.

Tell them words wont solve this, action must be taken, and you need there help.

Yes, but then this question pops up again. What can we really do?? As of now, all that I know, and "Think". Is that she talked, and its in the states hands now!! I mean if she didnt talk, or nothing. Dont you think that they would have already sent her home by now?


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post Oct 19 2007, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Ryan @ Oct 19 2007, 04:16 AM) *
Yes, but then this question pops up again. What can we really do?? As of now, all that I know, and "Think". Is that she talked, and its in the states hands now!! I mean if she didnt talk, or nothing. Dont you think that they would have already sent her home by now?

For that question, your simply going to have to wait and see what happens on Monday.


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post Oct 19 2007, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE (Soul_Decision @ Oct 19 2007, 06:17 AM) *
For that question, your simply going to have to wait and see what happens on Monday.

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post Oct 19 2007, 12:22 PM
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Tough it out man, just think positive, you can do it. Ive gone through tough times like these, so i can relate, and the best thing to do is to focus on the positives, and have no doubts, belive you can do it.
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post Oct 19 2007, 12:23 PM
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post Oct 19 2007, 01:02 PM
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I'm not so sure on all of the legal stuff, but do not under any circumstances get into any fights with her parents. That will get you thrown in jail and then everyone is screwed. I had a buddy who went through his girlfriend having an abusive father and he intervened when her father was hitting her. To make a long story short, he ended up in jail for fighting the father!

Best of luck to you mate! I hope all works out in the end.
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post Oct 19 2007, 01:51 PM
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QUOTE (Animosity @ Oct 19 2007, 07:02 AM) *
I'm not so sure on all of the legal stuff, but do not under any circumstances get into any fights with her parents. That will get you thrown in jail and then everyone is screwed. I had a buddy who went through his girlfriend having an abusive father and he intervened when her father was hitting her. To make a long story short, he ended up in jail for fighting the father!

Best of luck to you mate! I hope all works out in the end.

Yes I know, going to jail is a bad thing for me right now. But honestly. I wouldnt think twice about it if you give me an oppornunity!!


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post Oct 27 2007, 07:28 AM
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Look at this new bullcrap stuff there putting about me in the paper cus she ran away!!

http://hsn.live.mediaspanonline.com/Todaystop/runaways

They blamed it on me. There full of it. If its my fault, why cant they see her right now? because she doesnt want to!! If its my fault why is she home right now? Because she hates it there and hates them.


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post Oct 28 2007, 10:10 PM
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Wow, i know i wasnt there for any of it, but it sounds like total BS What there writing.

Its sterotypical to blame the teens boyfriends, same thing happened down here with a friend of mine, she ran away because of her parents, and they blamed her boyfriend, one of my best friends.

god, i just have a growing hatred for the media. I hope everything works out for you, my best wishes and prayers are with you.
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post Oct 28 2007, 11:11 PM
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Hey Ryan,
Just some advice on this situation from someone who has a nephew that was emancipated from my brother and his wife. First things first, you live in Kansas correct ? You need to protect yourself before considering any other options. Look up the law on rape in your state. You are 18 and she is a minor, check carefully for the laws. Her parents can turn around and say you raped her, and if the law allows you are going to be in trouble. Your state (like my nephews state) may have a different age that it considers people adults. My nephews state views the age of 17 to be a legal adult. The court made my brother and his wife sign papers releasing him from their custody. He turned 18 in August but it was a long ugly court battle and it was very expensive. Multiple court hearings, a family torn apart (not only between the parents and the kid, but the rest of the family also). At this point , there is nothing you can do, nor that your parents can do to help. I would be positive that her parents gave your girlfriends computer to police to extract internet info from, I hope you two were careful with your online chatting and e mail. My nephew was in your position, he was 17 , the girl was 15 at the time. Lucky for him the girls parents did not hold anything against him, although he was sent to juvy for a brief stint, until the court determined that it was consentual sex and not rape. Point is, be very careful here, and cover your *ss !! I would suggest suspending contact with this girl until this cools off, you do not want to be the scapegoat for her parents animosity, and you certainly do not want to get arrested for raping a minor or kidnapping a minor !! Check the laws in your state and see what legal consent age is before you act on anything, and see how old she needs to be to file for emancipation. What ever you do, please do it carefully and do not aggitate her parents, they can make things very ugly for you. Drop me an e mail if you want particulars regarding my nephews case, I won't openly discuss them here. Good luck man.


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