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post Oct 29 2007, 01:58 PM
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So you can practice while watching TV and it'll help you get better. Thats widely accepted as true and many people do it.

But how about practicing guitar after smoking 420? Does your lack of cognitive faculties make it difficult to commit something to muscle memory?


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post Oct 29 2007, 03:28 PM
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we already had this thread and it was locked so expect it to be in a couple of hours.

Ive played while under the influence. Really cool actually. Turned on a distortion, 2 od pedals and a wah then did some slow riffing/noise/feedbacks.

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post Oct 29 2007, 04:23 PM
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post Oct 29 2007, 04:29 PM
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post Oct 29 2007, 04:32 PM
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dont know what 420 is.. but i say forget muscle memory, just jam and make amazing music. And record it!


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post Oct 29 2007, 04:32 PM
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If you're trying to memorize something like a scale or a lick, forget about it;
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post Oct 29 2007, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (shredmandan @ Oct 29 2007, 10:29 AM) *
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Too bad you were not under the influence at that time, it would have sounded musical and creative I am sure had that been the case.
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post Oct 29 2007, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Oct 29 2007, 11:39 AM) *
Too bad you were not under the influence at that time, it would have sounded musical and creative I am sure had that been the case.


I know it man.I wish i could be messed up while a fart then it could be that more special and my ears would have enjoedit that much mure



Its actually only 15 min till 4:20 here on east coast,so im gonna grab my guitar and fart and smell it and see where that takes my guitar playing.Never know what you will come up with under the influence of a fart at 4:20am.


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post Oct 29 2007, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE (shredmandan @ Oct 29 2007, 10:45 AM) *
I know it man.I wish i could be messed up while a fart then it could be that more special and my ears would have enjoedit that much mure
Its actually only 15 min till 4:20 here on east coast,so im gonna grab my guitar and fart and smell it and see where that takes my guitar playing.Never know what you will come up with under the influence of a fart at 4:20am.


I can't talk. I could show you my college undergrad transcripts, and ask you to identify which semester I started, and which semester i quit. you would have no problem solving that puzzle after looking at the transcript.

surprised this thread has lasted this long, Kris must be sleeping. I know Andrew is, gets up in a few hours I think though, based on his past behavior.
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post Oct 29 2007, 04:54 PM
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Its never really a good idea to smoke anything man, it leads to big problems later on in life and i would hate to see any members end up with !! smile.gif

This thread will be locked btw wink.gif

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post Oct 29 2007, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Oct 29 2007, 10:54 AM) *
Its never really a good idea to smoke anything man, it leads to big problems later on in life and i would hate to see any members end up with !! smile.gif

This thread will be locked btw wink.gif


Good that you have learned this at age 24, I think that is how old you said that you are. But I am not one to talk. I stopped the dope smoking pretty early. Smoking cigs a bit later. But I was always doing serious athletic training at the time, so I think I countered the effects. My cardio system and endurance is exceptional, especially for my age. So I figure I countered it, I would either do distance swimming or running virtually every night. And even now at my advanced age my resting heart rate is in the 50's, and I have great endurance capacity.

But I know this one guy who smoked, and never got exercise, and was overweight, and they are talking about a heart transplant for him. Sad, nice guy.

The cigs are bad, but the dope, that is so hot, it has to fry your lungs. Not to mention what it does to your brain.
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post Oct 29 2007, 05:05 PM
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Well I guess there is no need to lock this thread - everyone can give their honest opinion about it.

Here are mine: If you want to stand a chance in the music business today - you should at least have knowledge about the following things:

*playing at least one instrument
*songwriting
*recording/producing
*marketing
*networking (I hate to say it, but I think most "under the influence friends" won't count here)
*general understanding of how the music business works (it's a fluctuating market, there is no up-to-date book with a recipe for success, and there will never be, so you have to be able to use your brain and see/analyse trends)
*social competence (you want to convince people to offer you gigs etc)

Now if you want to learn all this "under the influence" then...good luck! huh.gif

If you only want to get good at one thing, playing the blues for example, then you might get away doing it "under the influence".

However that won't get you anywhere today - so chances are you will just drop the guitar after a decade and only go for the "influence" part.

I would hate to see that happen because I like you. smile.gif


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post Oct 29 2007, 05:15 PM
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Smoking herbs is probably not the best practice method, as you won't remember specifically every thing you did. Instead, use your creativity and attention to detail if you choose to do so and make something really cool sounding with what you previously practiced. And always record it.

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post Oct 29 2007, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Oct 29 2007, 04:05 PM) *
Good that you have learned this at age 24, I think that is how old you said that you are. But I am not one to talk. I stopped the dope smoking pretty early. Smoking cigs a bit later. But I was always doing serious athletic training at the time, so I think I countered the effects. My cardio system and endurance is exceptional, especially for my age. So I figure I countered it, I would either do distance swimming or running virtually every night. And even now at my advanced age my resting heart rate is in the 50's, and I have great endurance capacity.

But I know this one guy who smoked, and never got exercise, and was overweight, and they are talking about a heart transplant for him. Sad, nice guy.

The cigs are bad, but the dope, that is so hot, it has to fry your lungs. Not to mention what it does to your brain.


I have been pretty muched afraid of illegal substances ever since i can remember. I think my school did good enough job educating us about the risk. Then i saw alot of friends go downhill fast, which has been sad to watch sad.gif

I am pretty sure you can be an awsome player from your own natural abilitys! biggrin.gif


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post Oct 29 2007, 06:09 PM
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i've played under the influence, a so-so experience. i was able to come up with some trippy riffs, but i wasn't that amazed by them. i play far better with a clear head.


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post Oct 29 2007, 06:09 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Oct 29 2007, 11:29 AM) *
I have been pretty muched afraid of illegal substances ever since i can remember. I think my school did good enough job educating us about the risk. Then i saw alot of friends go downhill fast, which has been sad to watch sad.gif

I am pretty sure you can be an awsome player from your own natural abilitys! biggrin.gif


I don't even care for the legal types. Some of these doctors are too quick to prescribe stuff for psychological issues. I have a sister who had issues, they started her on stuff when she was 12, never got off it. A person can work out problems without that prescription junk a lot of times, and that is the best way to go. But some of these doctors now, just are quick to dope everybody up to solve their problems. And it doesn't. Feels good at first to them, then just sort of numbs them, but they can't deal without the stuff at that point. Not much different than the illegal stuff really in that sense. I quit watching tv some time ago, but at that time they were trying to push all sorts of prescription medicine on the public, on commercial in the US. I assume that has not changed. But i never watch tv, so am oblivious to all that.

Another point, I don't agree that watching tv is good to practice guitar with. A lot of guys have had success in spite of bad habits, not because of them. How can that be good for practice, you lose your focus. That is like people reading while on the treadmill. All you do is half ass both activities (reading and working out) when you do that.
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post Oct 29 2007, 06:12 PM
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Some very good points raised there fkalich!


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post Oct 29 2007, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Oct 29 2007, 09:05 AM) *
I would hate to see that happen because I like you. smile.gif


awwww. biggrin.gif

I bet you say that to everyone, shucks tongue.gif

Dont worry about me. I know the risks involved and dont intend on ruining my life, and sure as hell dont intend on ruining my guitar playing. I'm no addict, but I mean, I live in San Francisco. wink.gif

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post Oct 29 2007, 06:43 PM
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Personnally, my oppinnion about being "Under the influence" is very low, no one is the same person they were when there "under the influence", often times there worse, secondly, its ruined many things in my family.

and thirdly...


You had me thinking this was a rusty cooley thread sad.gif
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Oct 29 2007, 04:23 PM) *
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EDIT: Awh.. not being locked. So I can add some facts (without source reference) to contribute instead and those are that - In the very state you learn something is the state where you will perform it the best. Meaning that if you learn something sober you will perform it better when sober, when you learn something under the influence you'll perform it better in the same state. Also concidering the amout of affection from alcohol or drugs you're experiencing.

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