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Harry Ips
post Nov 2 2007, 02:57 AM
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Hello everyone. I really like what I see here. Didn't know I sucked so bad until I saw some of the stuff here! Especially by Kris, Muris and Marcus. Whoa!. I was wondering if I'm on the right track to achieve my goals, and am seeking some advice if you would be so kind...

I am a lead guitarist that plays rock and progressive rock for a long time. Rush, Tull, Zeppelin, and lots of classic rock type stuff. I put it down for a few years (5-6) and now I'm getting back into it. So I'm not a beginner. I primarily use a few techniques in what I think is the pentatonic minor key (from what I can tell) My goal is to learn alternate speed picking, and use it with a few new learned scales so I can shred some kick-ass runs in-between my usual melodic bending and legato solos (lots of hammer-ons and pull-offs.). I would be satisfied with that for now.

From looking around, it looks like the right place to start is this;
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1. Guitar scales for beginners???
2. Pentatonic scale 101 – lesson1,2,3

3. Speedpicking – alternate picking - basics (pt 1)
4. Speedpicking – alternate picking - practice patterns (pt 2)
5. “Map my gap” fusion speedpicking solo (pt 2)
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There seems to be soooo many scales though - all those modes...sheesh. What should I really be spending time on to acheive my goals?

Harry
Wisconsin, USA
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post Nov 2 2007, 03:04 AM
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Welcome, first of all.

When learning all the scales/modes and whatnot, take your time. What I do is I commit one week to one scale in one key, the next in a different key ect. I also commit this week to memorizing two keys and two chord progressions. It all comes with time.


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post Nov 2 2007, 03:12 AM
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Hi Harry, and welcome to GMC!

I pretty much had the same desires when I started here!

You need to balance some theory with a lot of practice. You can find my theory classes here which will give you some explanations on how scales are put together.

In terms of lessons, when I was starting out with speedpicking, I found Kris' 101 lessons to be of a huge benefit. First, you need to understand the importance of metronome use, then look at Kris's speedpicking lessons. Then when you have the basics down, check Pavels speedpicking exercises to really dig in and start perfecting your technique.

Along the way, have fun by picking out lessons that appeal to you and make them part of your schedule even if you can't handle them yet - there are some awesome lessons by Dave Walliman and Muris that will give you a feel for some of the more interesting scales and modes out there, and check out the way that Marcus adds so much feel to his solos.

With all that to work on you can't fail!


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Hey man welcome!! There are some good advices stated already so for now all i can say is - follow Andrew's advice and have fun practicing! Enjoy your staying man! smile.gif


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Hi Harry!

You sound a lot like myself, a capable player that requires some direction?
You`ve come to the right place, the alternate picking exercises from Muris and Pavel are excellent, then as Andrew says, pick some lessons that appeal to you/your style and take it from there, there is so much here that you cannot fail to improve upon what your already capable of, just listen to the advice that the instructors give, and ask plenty of questions, these guys are the greatest for getting back to you real fast, and it makes you feel like you`ve got them in the room with you, encouraging you to go that little bit further, its excellent m8
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post Nov 2 2007, 08:22 PM
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I see you've already got many cool advices so I'm just gonna say welcome Harry. smile.gif

Also feel free to ask if you need any assistance. wink.gif


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QUOTE (Harry Ips @ Nov 1 2007, 08:57 PM) *
Hello everyone. I really like what I see here. Didn't know I sucked so bad until I saw some of the stuff here! Especially by Kris, Muris and Marcus. Whoa!. I was wondering if I'm on the right track to achieve my goals, and am seeking some advice if you would be so kind...

I am a lead guitarist that plays rock and progressive rock for a long time. Rush, Tull, Zeppelin, and lots of classic rock type stuff. I put it down for a few years (5-6) and now I'm getting back into it. So I'm not a beginner. I primarily use a few techniques in what I think is the pentatonic minor key (from what I can tell) My goal is to learn alternate speed picking, and use it with a few new learned scales so I can shred some kick-ass runs in-between my usual melodic bending and legato solos (lots of hammer-ons and pull-offs.). I would be satisfied with that for now.

From looking around, it looks like the right place to start is this;
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Guitar scales for beginners???
2. Pentatonic scale 101 – lesson1,2,3

3. Speedpicking – alternate picking - basics (pt 1)
4. Speedpicking – alternate picking - practice patterns (pt 2)
5. “Map my gap” fusion speedpicking solo (pt 2)
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There seems to be soooo many scales though - all those modes...sheesh. What should I really be spending time on to acheive my goals?

Harry
Wisconsin, USA



I would not worry so much about a start here type system. good stuff all around. there is a recent thread, past few days, where people put their favorite lessons. definitely do the Neoclassical Beginner lesson of Marcus.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...inner/index.htm

Gabriel has a lot of neat lessons, some pretty easy. Look at "Hand Control Lesson" by Pavel, that is neat. Sort of Guns and Roses'yish

But honestly there are at least 100 lessons I would recommend, all the teachers are good, and you can pretty much tell how difficult they are by looking at them. Some you can memorize quickly, and work on it till you get it right. Others take longer, you just have to look around. But do look at that thread I mentioned.

I started with the Kris lessons, you should at least look at those. He tends to give instruction, more than presenting a piece like others do. He talks a great deal, which is good. Also he has a very sharp attack on his AP, he is good at that, gets that machine gun sound. I could not do that at first, but later after doing other lessons I went back, and found I could do that at his speed in the lessons. But hearing him do that gave me the idea of what to shoot for.

Oh, listen to Gilbert. Definitely listen to him, at least once.
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post Nov 2 2007, 09:42 PM
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Thanks everyone for your advice. I really appreciate it. I'm excited to get started.

Harry
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post Nov 3 2007, 02:37 AM
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Hi Harry and welcome.
As Muris says theres already a lot of good advice here for you so I'll refrain for now. I'll undoubtedly post one of my epics in one of your future posts wink.gif .

Cheers and enjoy,
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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Nov 2 2007, 09:37 PM) *
Hi Harry and welcome.
As Muris says theres already a lot of good advice here for you so I'll refrain for now. I'll undoubtedly post one of my epics in one of your future posts wink.gif .

Cheers and enjoy,
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Hey Harry, he must like you - he normally bores us all to death ... smile.gif


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