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peterorg54
post Nov 2 2007, 08:16 AM
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so... i was using a cheap no-name brand guitar, cuz i was beginner.. or still ... biggrin.gif

and im looking for my 2nd guitar now..

but i don't know what guitar i should buy... i don't know each brand's merit, style...


so here's the question:

can you guys list each brand's name and style, and recommend which is better .. ?

like, Ibanez's rg is good for heavy metal...(right ?..)

and les paul is good for every style... ( i guess so. :I)



but the real problem is i really don't know what my style is .. tongue.gif

well.. that's my problem to solve.. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 2 2007, 08:19 AM
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I think this is the thread you're looking for


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post Nov 2 2007, 09:40 AM
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While he goes to that thread ill post a few things that i know about here.
Basically I use these main brands when talking guitars

Ibanez
Schecter
Gibson
Dean
ESP
Fender
Gildon
Jackson

Really these are the top brands in my opinion
Ibanez- Really fast guitars ( great for metal, shredding )
Schecter - Really Versatile (I use mine for metal but i also get a really nice clean and effect tone. Not as fast as ibanez but can be shred on)
Gibson - Very Versatile. Used for just about any type of music. Lots of people love the feel IMO i don't like it. Great sound tho. ( Not as fast as Ibanez but still could be shred on )
Dean - Metal/ Hardrock. Ive never really seen them used for alot of other things.. great sound fast guitars and they have very low end models.
ESP - Shred
Fender- Wouldn't use it for metal.. great for everything else.
Gildon- Rock-blues-funk very affordable but not actually too widly availible.
Jackson- Metal... ive tried to use it for other genres and it doesn't work to well. Very short necks and very heavy guitars(sound wise) Metal rythem is great on these, Its one of my personal favorites


All of these Brands have lots of different guitars that may specify more towards your needs. These are just my favorite Brands. i would recommend Schecter very highly. i use 1 as my main and absolutly love it! would trade it for nothing. My second choice would be Jackson but only if your using it for metal. I really love these guitars i just find them to be less than versatile. Im actually thinking of saving and ordering a jackson custom thats how much i love them. Lets get some other opinions smile.gif


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post Nov 2 2007, 10:02 AM
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I agree with your list except I've never played a Schecter, ESP, or Gildon.


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post Nov 2 2007, 12:20 PM
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whoa thanks Spiderusalem... biggrin.gif

didn't try to find by myself... rolleyes.gif


well.. is Epiphone les paul good enough as gibson..??

i think gibson is too much for me now.. $$$ sad.gif


so, im thinking about Fender Stratocaster or Ibanez RG or les paul...

any recommend ???

i know it depends on me.. but if u were me, what would you buy first?
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post Nov 2 2007, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE (peterorg54 @ Nov 2 2007, 07:20 AM) *
whoa thanks Spiderusalem... biggrin.gif

didn't try to find by myself... rolleyes.gif
well.. is Epiphone les paul good enough as gibson..??

i think gibson is too much for me now.. $$$ sad.gif
so, im thinking about Fender Stratocaster or Ibanez RG or les paul...

any recommend ???

i know it depends on me.. but if u were me, what would you buy first?



Basically the Epiphone's are the poor man Gibsons with the exception of the Pups and the finish on the guitars:

Example: Gibson Studio uses Alcino magnetic humbuckers, Epiphone Studio uses Alcino Classic humbuckers.

Example 2: Gibson Standard uses Burstbucker pro Pickups while the Epiphone Standard uses the Alcino Classic Humbuckers.

The difference between the two Guitars is Tone, Sustain and looks. Of course the much higher priced Gibson wins out on all three accounts but where the tone and sustain are concerned some would say not by much.

You really have to go out and play the different guitars to see what sounds and feels right for you. When I was ready to buy a guitar I thought for sure I was going to buy a gibson studio or standard and just for giggles I thought I would try out an Ibanez to see how much better the Gibson was. I ended up buying an Ibanez Rg1570 and love it more every time I play it. Of course this is me, you might love the Gibson or the Epiphone or a Fender even, everyone is different. It's like buying a car in a lot of ways, a very personal thing to do.

Good luck and remember to take your time and have fun while making your decision.

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post Nov 2 2007, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Nov 2 2007, 01:40 AM) *
Fender- Wouldn't use it for metal.. great for everything else.


At this time, I would like to point out that Adrian Smith and Dave Murray are both avid users of Fender Strats. They're in a little band called Iron Maiden.


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post Nov 2 2007, 07:27 PM
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QUOTE (Spiderusalem @ Nov 2 2007, 10:05 AM) *
At this time, I would like to point out that Adrian Smith and Dave Murray are both avid users of Fender Strats. They're in a little band called Iron Maiden.


Truely biggrin.gif BUT!!! in the world of today i would not classify the little distortion used my maiden as "Metal" ... i am not maiden bashing.. i absolutly love them but i would classify them as the beginings of metal/ hard rock. Comparing maiden to "metal of today" would be like comparing them to Children of Bodom or Arch Enemy who have a much different sound.


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QUOTE (Smikey2006 @ Nov 2 2007, 07:27 PM) *
Truely biggrin.gif BUT!!! in the world of today i would not classify the little distortion used my maiden as "Metal"

I would. Heavy Metal even.

Rather that forcing Iron Maiden and lots and lots of other bands to shift genre since music develop it's Children of Bodom and Arch Enemy who qualify for a different metal genre.
A genre that have evoluted from Heavy metal.

EDIT: And we also have Yngwie Malmsteen on Fender.

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post Nov 4 2007, 01:32 PM
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Just my 2 cents but their are LOTS of metal players playing Fenders. All fenders though Telecasters are almost non-existent among Metal Heads.

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post Nov 4 2007, 02:44 PM
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Well i will just tell you the way i look at different brands of guitars.Im so sure many will disagree but this is just my look toward's it all and how i feel when it comes down to it.I'll start with Gibson

Gibson=They make very nice guitars and use some of the best woods available.Thats great but one neg on that is the damm things will just about tear your shoulder all to hell cause they weigh about as much as T.V laugh.gif tongue.gif and that makes using them live more difficult.I mostly play metal and imo this isnt a metal guitar,sure it can be any guitar can be made to metal just not worth it for me.If i wanted a Les Paul i would not buy a Gibson unless i was totaly loaded bigtime.Reason why?Although they use some of the best woods and put excellent craftsmanship into there instruments i just feel you can get very similar results through Epiphone and other maker's.They are a notch higher overall but i would rather keep the extra cash than have just 5 to 10% better quality overall

Epiphone=Very similar to Gibson but here is were wood ,stock parts,and overall quality come in play.Most people cant tell a big difference in sound between them both but any experienced player with a great ear will notice just that little differnce.If i wanted Les Paul i would go this route and buy proffesional Humbucker's along with replacing any parts if necisarry.

Fender=I used to play a srtatocaster that i made for metal with a sey duncan sh-6 humbucker.I got so used to the neck its hard to change now.Basically i feel fender makes necks inbetween a Les Paul Style and a thin shred neck like Ibanez,Jackson ect.My only complaint on necks?So many times they make them 21 fret's which icant express how angry that made me and still does to this day biggrin.gif This guitar has its pro's and cons against a les paul guitar by having a bolt on neck and single coil pickups.Its nice to have a bolt on so you can change them and if you break the neck your whole guitar isnt trashed but a set neck like a paul will give you the best sustain.

Ibanez=A shred and metal mans dream smile.gif This is the guitar that fits my style best along with Jackson Charvel,Scheter.Very nice thin neck that lets you just rip like crazy.Very competitve prices and great value for money.

Ok a babbled on enough.Just my opinoin while i was bored laugh.gif wink.gif


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post Nov 5 2007, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE (Hardtail @ Nov 4 2007, 01:32 PM) *
Just my 2 cents but their are LOTS of metal players playing Fenders. All fenders though Telecasters are almost non-existent among Metal Heads.

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Hey there Hardtail - welcome back! smile.gif

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post Nov 5 2007, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (Hardtail @ Nov 4 2007, 07:32 AM) *
PS - Oh yeah... I'm Back!


Glad to see you - where did you go? I was missing your in depth comments on my amp blog!


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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Nov 5 2007, 11:26 AM) *
Hey there Hardtail - welcome back! smile.gif

Where have you been? Practicing I hope!


Unfortunately no. sad.gif

I was studying A LOT for my Professional Engineering Exam which I took 2 weeks ago...

While I was studying for it my boss fired me because he couldn't afford to keep me on staff any more. So 2 weeks before the biggest exam of my life I become unemployed. No time for guitar sadly.


QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Nov 5 2007, 03:21 PM) *
Glad to see you - where did you go? I was missing your in depth comments on my amp blog!


See above...

Anyway, I am STILL looking for a job... it's been 4 weeks now and I'm getting worried. It looks like wherever I get a job I will probably have to move so that will be more craziness. I may not be back to the guitar and GMC for another several weeks still. Just popping in here when I have time.

Keep up the good work guys!

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