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post Nov 19 2007, 07:08 AM
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Hey there GMCers. While I was practicing (Im stil am tongue.gif ), something came to my mind. "Are we self taught?" i said. Ive never recieved lessons from a live instructor since i took the electric guitar, so i guess that means i am self taught.

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We are members of an awesome community called GuitarMasterclass. Instructors record their lessons to help us become better and professional guitar players.. So we do recieve tuition here, but its not live tuition.

So the question is, could you say that you are a self taught guitarrist if you practice the lessons here and those lessons are what is making you improve alot (like in my case).

Personally, i wouldnt mind saying "Self taught? hmmm...not really, i was part of a learning community for guitarrists and thats basically were I learned almost everything i know now. Im proud being a GMC member!"

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post Nov 19 2007, 07:10 AM
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I don't think we are self taught because we are still in contact with all of the instructors if we need help on a specific subject. If you are self taught you have no contact with an instructor from what I believe.
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post Nov 19 2007, 07:10 AM
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ahh im confuzed! >.<


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post Nov 19 2007, 07:16 AM
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I`d say still self taught, although your provided with the lessons its still down to us to put in the effort and practice to learn and become better.


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post Nov 19 2007, 07:31 AM
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To be honest, I don't think anyone is self taught, because in one way or another someone always finds some kind of info or advice somewhere. But I could be wrong
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post Nov 19 2007, 07:39 AM
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yeah, i agree with wyvern. unless you've never looked at a chord, scale or tab before, you're not really self-taught.


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post Nov 19 2007, 07:45 AM
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QUOTE (Testament @ Nov 19 2007, 06:39 AM) *
yeah, i agree with wyvern. unless you've never looked at a chord, scale or tab before, you're not really self-taught.


Yea I agree up to a point, but thats a little picky imo, if I sat and read a book on what chords are which what notes are what it wouldnt mean a great deal, it doesnt instantly make me able to play it.


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QUOTE (Testament @ Nov 19 2007, 06:39 AM) *
yeah, i agree with wyvern. unless you've never looked at a chord, scale or tab before, you're not really self-taught.


Well there is a difference between being taught 101 and a referrence such as a chord or scale book.
I think our lessons here at GMC are boarderline, as we have instructors, but its also kind of like a reference to certain styles/techniques that we search for.

However, i think our instructors deserve waaay more credit than that so when i'm asked if i get lessons i tell them
"Yeh Online lessons at GuitarMasterClass.net"

Hopefully that way i'm helping out the site as much as it helps me.
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post Nov 19 2007, 07:56 AM
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lol I'm not self taught. I was once asked what music school I attended, and I told them "I'm currently enrolled at GMC University, and this semester I'm taking classes from Professor Dahl, Professor Varajic ect. ect."


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post Nov 19 2007, 07:59 AM
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Really hard to tell what is self taught 100%.
Guess it means having no instruction or advices but taking everything by yourself.
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I have a question about this. A place like berklee college of music in boston requires two years of professional training in your chosen instrument. However, nowhere that I can find is that defined. I know that if you look up someone in the phone book and take piano lessons, that counts. Since I'm paying for GMC, and doing *lessons* with *professional instructors* (isn't the definition of professional that it is your profession, and or that you're payed for it?). So I wonder if Berklee would accept that as professional instruction.

There is an audition though, and they say if you're good enough they will make exceptions to self taught people. Just makes me wonder.


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post Nov 19 2007, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE (Wyvernx @ Nov 19 2007, 12:31 AM) *
To be honest, I don't think anyone is self taught, because in one way or another someone always finds some kind of info or advice somewhere. But I could be wrong


good point there.

QUOTE (Muris @ Nov 19 2007, 12:59 AM) *
Really hard to tell what is self taught 100%.
Guess it means having no instruction or advices but taking everything by yourself.
My point of view. smile.gif


I agree, another reason i asked this, was because ive read some guitarist biographies and they say that they were self taught, of course, back in the day there was no Internet, but could they really become that good alone?


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post Nov 19 2007, 08:03 AM
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Rusty says he's self-taught although he was learning by Metal Method's video instructionals. I think you are self-taught as long as you don't officially get a degree on some music academy or something. That's my opinion, i'm not sure.


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post Nov 19 2007, 08:04 AM
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QUOTE (Smells @ Nov 18 2007, 10:45 PM) *
Yea I agree up to a point, but thats a little picky imo, if I sat and read a book on what chords are which what notes are what it wouldnt mean a great deal, it doesnt instantly make me able to play it.



sure, but neither does taking an in-person lesson from an instructor.

i've got a friend who's never taken a lesson in his life and he tells people he's self-taught. though i wouldn't consider using guitar pro to learn things as self-taught, just like i wouldn't consider reading scales and chords to be self-taught. not that it isn't harder to learn without an instructor, it most certainly is. honestly, i think the problem lies in the wording. if there was an in-between place that didn't have to be self-taught or taught by an instructor, things would be much clearer.


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However, i think our instructors deserve waaay more credit than that so when i'm asked if i get lessons i tell them
"Yeh Online lessons at GuitarMasterClass.net"


i couldn't agree more. cool.gif


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post Nov 19 2007, 08:07 AM
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QUOTE (Testament @ Nov 19 2007, 07:04 AM) *
honestly, i think the problem lies in the wording. if there was an in-between place that didn't have to be self-taught or taught by an instructor, things would be much clearer.


agreed smile.gif


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post Nov 19 2007, 08:26 AM
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if you are a self taught you wouldnt be here. you have a good chance here to built your playing and style . you have many intsructors at GMC .and each one of them has a different style . i think its a big chance for you here. have a nice day


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post Nov 19 2007, 08:30 AM
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I think that Online resources and books don't count as "being taught". it's like learning C++ by online tutorials - you're not a degree programmer/developer. Same goes here - you're self-taught as long as you don't enroll some educational institution.


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QUOTE (Wyvernx @ Nov 19 2007, 01:31 AM) *
To be honest, I don't think anyone is self taught, because in one way or another someone always finds some kind of info or advice somewhere. But I could be wrong


Thats true, everyone has someones help at certain points. Except for the first person to ever play the guitar probably.
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post Nov 19 2007, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 18 2007, 11:33 PM) *
Thats true, everyone has someones help at certain points. Except for the first person to ever play the guitar probably.

Yes! that was the only exception I was going to mention laugh.gif
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QUOTE (Pavel @ Nov 19 2007, 08:30 AM) *
I think that Online resources and books don't count as "being taught". it's like learning C++ by online tutorials - you're not a degree programmer/developer. Same goes here - you're self-taught as long as you don't enroll some educational institution.


I can almost agree here in total with you Pavel,regarding to instructional videos,books,tabs,sheets etc.
But having private classes in person with real instructor,that probably eliminates self taught option,
even if you don't get degree for it.
Once more,my opinion. smile.gif


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