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post Nov 20 2007, 09:06 PM
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Just curious to get everyone’s opinion.

Ended up with a very nice $2.50 guitar. She plays like having thimbles on my fingers. I have went through and reset everything to where I feel it is best it can be. Truth be known it does not sound too bad if you hit each note perfect. It just requires ten times the effort and half the speed I have been playing to play this one clean. I want to keep one somewhere that I would not want to store anything worth much as it might come up missing.

My question is do you feel it is a good/bad thing to learn stuff on a terrible playing guitar?

Since it requires more accuracy and far more effort to play, will it build someone up or tear them down?

We have all heard people say like, “well if you can play that piece of junk, you could play anything.”


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post Nov 20 2007, 09:15 PM
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QUOTE (leedbreak @ Nov 20 2007, 02:06 PM) *
Just curious to get everyone’s opinion.

Ended up with a very nice $2.50 guitar. She plays like having thimbles on my fingers. I have went through and reset everything to where I feel it is best it can be. Truth be known it does not sound too bad if you hit each note perfect. It just requires ten times the effort and half the speed I have been playing to play this one clean. I want to keep one somewhere that I would not want to store anything worth much as it might come up missing.

My question is do you feel it is a good/bad thing to learn stuff on a terrible playing guitar?

Since it requires more accuracy and far more effort to play, will it build someone up or tear them down?

We have all heard people say like, “well if you can play that piece of junk, you could play anything.”


1) I think it is more productive to practice on a better guitar.
2) Also, I feel that the question is academic, as the odds of you playing this guitar a week from now are nearly zero. I don't know you of course, but I have found that when I bought a piece of junk, it ended up in the garage, then in the dumpster as the garage got full.

edit: or more likely, I just put it out next to the back alley. living in a college town, anything I put out there, somebody usually wants it. stuff I don't want or need anymore.

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post Nov 20 2007, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Nov 20 2007, 02:15 PM) *
2) Also, I feel that the question is academic, as the odds of you playing this guitar a week from now are nearly zero.



You mean a week from now I will toss it in the dumpster?

You updated your post as I was replying the same thing
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post Nov 20 2007, 09:17 PM
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My first guitar cost me £50 gbr, (100usd) but probably cost Argos £1 to make.

Fret buzz every note, heavy as a breeze block, had no motivation to play for 8 months.
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post Nov 20 2007, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE (leedbreak @ Nov 20 2007, 02:16 PM) *
You mean a week from now I will toss it in the dumpster?

You updated your post as I was replying the same thing
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yeah. i have found it to be that way. I mean, you have a nice guitar, and this one. you won't want to play it in a few days. maybe not by the end of the day. i could be wrong. but that is my guess.

I do go for the buy one that you won't cry about if something happens. such as the dog knocks it off the couch and breaks the neck. or it gets a scractch.

Don't play my good Les Paul most of the time. But my work a day les paul is still nice, a gibson studio. I play that the most. Especially with 8 cats taking terms wanting to climb on me, all having claws. Just more relaxing not to worry about the finish.
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post Nov 20 2007, 09:28 PM
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My first guitar was a POS I didn't play it much but then I got really into it leading to a better guitar. Anyways I think that the lame guitar will help hand strength and make sure you technique is crisp but I still would learn songs and other aspects on the guitar your going to play it on.


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post Nov 20 2007, 09:29 PM
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QUOTE (DeepRoots @ Nov 20 2007, 02:17 PM) *
My first guitar cost me £50 gbr, (100usd) but probably cost Argos £1 to make.

Fret buzz every note, heavy as a breeze block, had no motivation to play for 8 months.


Another good point, it has been so long since I started I just remembered the first guitar I had.

It was one that was broke by Kiss when they played in my town. The neck was split and the bolt holes in the body where split as well. We adapted an old acoustic neck to fit and played that stupid thing for a long time. No wonder it took two weeks to learn the first 10 bars of “breaking the Law”


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QUOTE (leedbreak @ Nov 20 2007, 12:29 PM) *
Another good point, it has been so long since I started I just remembered the first guitar I had.

It was one that was broke by Kiss when they played in my town. The neck was split and the bolt holes in the body where split as well. We adapted an old acoustic neck to fit and played that stupid thing for a long time. No wonder it took two weeks to learn the first 10 bars of “breaking the Law”

Sounds like quite a gem you had there. laugh.gif


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post Nov 20 2007, 10:08 PM
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I believe your guitar shouldnt feel like its making things harder. It should make you feel like you can do better, learning new techniques is hard enough, Sweeping is real hard on its own, no need for it to be more difficult right? I would rather have an instrument that helps me achieve my goal, rather than inhibit me.

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post Nov 20 2007, 10:12 PM
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Good Question!!

I guess you could look at it from two angles. Yes you would have to work harder to play well, and that would ultimately make you a better player ... BUT

If its a really crappy guitar it can send motivation down the drain pretty quick!! There is nothing like nice kit to keep on enthused ! wink.gif


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post Nov 20 2007, 11:02 PM
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Not to mention that if its super crappy one might pick up excruciatingly bad habits that cause the transfer to a good guitar extremely difficult.


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post Nov 20 2007, 11:45 PM
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I always suggest not to start on crappy guitars because they can seriously kill your will to practice.


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post Nov 21 2007, 12:07 AM
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Well then, you all helped me plea my case with out knowing you did.

you see, As long as the customers are happy at work my boss says I can pick all day long.


So, I will ebay the other and get another schecter for my desk at work, but please do not tell my wife she is going to kill me. huh.gif

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Haha awesome! You can play the guitar at work?? Now that's something!! smile.gif


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I started on really bad acoustic guitars,but reeaaally bad. biggrin.gif
I mean,action was like 0.5-1.00 cm,blood runs from your fingertips as you look at the guitar laugh.gif

But it has good effects as well,you achieve more power and strength,specially in left hand.
Of course,I'm NOT suggest to play bad instruments,it's just that having wonderful and sweet
instrument might slow you down a bit,make you lazy or som.
That is how I see those things at least. smile.gif

Probably it'd be nice to switch from soft electric on a just a bit heavier acoustic(action wise)
here and there,good for filling up the batteries,sort of body building if I may say. wink.gif


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