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post Nov 22 2007, 07:56 PM
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I was looking through the October issue of Guitar Player Magazine and came across some "40 Common Newbie Guitarist Mistakes" and I decided to post them here to help new guitarists who have not seen this list, so here it goes.

For copyright issues I am not stealing this information from Guitar Player Magazine. All the credit for this information goes to them.

1. Investing in distortion boxes instead of a good amp.
2. Learning 100 intros and no entire songs.
3. Limiting yourself to one style of music, usually metal.
4. Not taking the time to learn music theory.
5. Playing "Smoke On The Water" on the high-E string.
6. Playing too loud and too much distortion.
7. Setting your amps gain to 10 and mids to 0.
8. Relying on picks.
9. Not learning how to perform a basic setup.
10. Not maintaining your gear.
11. Not jamming enough with other players.
12. Over use of legato with a complete disregard for tempo.
13. Poor phrasing.
14. Weak Vibrato.
15. Buying too many effects.
16. Listening to tone snobs.
17. Immediately launching into thirty-second-notes during a blues solo.
18. Thinking that playing the local bar circuit constitutes a "tour".
19. Believing that opening for a national act means you're on your way.
20. Not knowing the difference between tube watts and solid-state watts.
21. Relying too much on printed music and tabs.
22. Thinking a year of lessons and $5,000 worth of gear makes you ready to play in a band.
23. Wearing your guitar way too low.
24. Using too much hand/finger pressure when fretting.
25. Taking guitar lessons from a friend.
26. Giving up immediately because you sound like dog doo.
27. Not learning how all of your gear works
28. Tuning every guitar at Guitar Center to dropped D, and not returning them to standard pitch.
29. Bringing full stacks to tiny bar gigs.
30. Saying "All [insert hated style of music] sucks, dude!"
31. Learning with your eyes instead of your ears.
32. Not learning to play in time with good grove and feel.
33. Not investing in good earplugs for playing loud gigs. ***(This is very important)***
34. Obsessing about playing burning solos, and not caring about rhythm guitar.
35. Thinking that playing fast pentatonic-box patterns makes you a hot guitarist.
36. Not putting casters on viciously heavy amps.
37. Wearing bowling shirts emblazoned with flames and dragons.
38. Realizing guitar is too difficult and taking up bass instead.
39. Spending more time on Harmony Central than actually practicing.
40. Forgetting that playing music is meant to be fun.

Hope this helps all of you who are beginners or didn't know this information. I admit I have to work on some of this too also.

Enjoy! smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2007, 08:02 PM
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post Nov 22 2007, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Nov 22 2007, 02:02 PM) *
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post Nov 22 2007, 08:14 PM
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Yeah, lol. That list is funny, and on some parts, I would have to disagree.


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post Nov 22 2007, 08:14 PM
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So very, very, very true.


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post Nov 22 2007, 08:48 PM
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38. Realizing guitar is too difficult and taking up bass instead.

Thath funny smile.gif

Btw a know a few people who became great bass players because of this reason wink.gif

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post Nov 23 2007, 04:08 AM
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Wow, I never realized how many mistakes I made until I read that.

2, 4, 8, 11, 21 and 34 all apply to me. None of these were done on purpose though, and I'm working on 4...


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post Nov 23 2007, 12:23 PM
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Funny list and 95% true too. smile.gif I´m still doing a lot of those things. Specially the one with jaming alone and knowing tons of riffs and not so many songs. I only know full acoustic songs. Like Lars Winnerbäck smile.gif But when you´re not in a band it´s very easy you learn small pieces of songs. Mainly because many riffs is not fun or doesn´t sound good to play without any other instruments backing you up. And even if you´re in a band you do not learn so many songs because you practice a lot on getting it tight and maby write a lot of songs your own which takes some time also. And your half serious band end up learning 5-10 songs a year atm which btw is unplayable without the rest of the band smile.gif

damn, read the list again. I think there are mistakes made in the list by many good players.. Maby not real pro´s... Really entertaining list though and makes you think. Looking at the list once a month might help your guitarplaying a lot biggrin.gif

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post Nov 23 2007, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 22 2007, 07:56 PM) *
I was looking through the October issue of Guitar Player Magazine and came across some "40 Common Newbie Guitarist Mistakes" and I decided to post them here to help new guitarists who have not seen this list, so here it goes.

20. Not knowing the difference between tube watts and solid-state watts.

Could someone explain this one please? No opinions, just clean facts please smile.gif


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post Nov 23 2007, 02:15 PM
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QUOTE (Twibeard @ Nov 23 2007, 01:08 PM) *
Could someone explain this one please? No opinions, just clean facts please smile.gif

Clean facts huh? I'm not educated in the matter and can only give my explanation as I've been told but if you ask me to support what I say with theories and mathematic formulas I won't cause I can't. smile.gif

First, a solid state 50W amp will be driven to 50W (or about) while a 50W tube amp can be pushed beyond 50W, say 70W.
So if the solid state amp at one moment deliver 20W and the tube amp deliver 20W there's no difference since 20W the same. No difference there since the watts go 1:1. But with volume and gain both at 10 the solid state will give say 45W while the tube amp deliver 70W so there's a difference since 45<>70 though both say 50.

Second there a theory or solid state amps brings out harmoics that will give a weaker sound while tube amps brings out other hormonics that will make the sound stronger. I don't know if that will cause actual differences in volume but they will definiaeteley be caughts as weaker & thinner vs stronger & fatter


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post Nov 23 2007, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Nov 23 2007, 01:15 PM) *
Clean facts huh? I'm not educated in the matter and can only give my explanation as I've been told but if you ask me to support what I say with theories and mathematic formulas I won't cause I can't. smile.gif

First, a solid state 50W amp will be driven to 50W (or about) while a 50W tube amp can be pushed beyond 50W, say 70W.
So if the solid state amp at one moment deliver 20W and the tube amp deliver 20W there's no difference since 20W the same. No difference there since the watts go 1:1. But with volume and gain both at 10 the solid state will give say 45W while the tube amp deliver 70W so there's a difference since 45<>70 though both say 50.

Second there a theory or solid state amps brings out harmoics that will give a weaker sound while tube amps brings out other hormonics that will make the sound stronger. I don't know if that will cause actual differences in volume but they will definiaeteley be caughts as weaker & thinner vs stronger & fatter


Wow thanks! Didnt know that!
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post Nov 23 2007, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 22 2007, 07:56 PM) *
23. Wearing your guitar way too low.

YES IM THAT NEWBIE
but im about to change that=)

anw you forgot to add one more

41. Not wanting to join GMC

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post Nov 23 2007, 04:08 PM
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One thing that also could be added: "Ignoring suggestions from experienced players."

The first 3-4 years of my playing my dad tried to teach me about chords etc. but I never listened because all I wanted to do was playing damn Maiden intros all freakin day............. I've also tried to give suggestions but all I get back is: "Hmmm meeh.. Its easier to just do this and that...."


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post Nov 23 2007, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Robin @ Nov 23 2007, 03:08 PM) *
One thing that also could be added: "Ignoring suggestions from experienced players."

The first 3-4 years of my playing my dad tried to teach me about chords etc. but I never listened because all I wanted to do was playing damn Maiden intros all freakin day............. I've also tried to give suggestions but all I get back is: "Hmmm meeh.. Its easier to just do this and that...."


I'm also guilty of that...
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post Nov 23 2007, 04:25 PM
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Man thats a pretty funny list.Its mostly true but still makes you smile.I love number 7,i hate mids and use basically none in metal and my gain is maxed out.I dont think that makes you a newb though,i sure hope not cause i've been playing for over 10 years tongue.gif I think the strap to low is a big one for most people,not me cause i have always held mine up high so i could solo but i see many having there guitar down to there knee's.


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You are confronting me!!! mad.gif
now I have to change some things in my playing.... sad.gif blink.gif
Thanks.... smile.gif
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post Nov 23 2007, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE (Lester @ Nov 23 2007, 10:27 AM) *
You are confronting me!!! mad.gif
now I have to change some things in my playing.... sad.gif blink.gif
Thanks.... smile.gif


laugh.gif No problem.
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post Nov 23 2007, 09:57 PM
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some where very dumb imo, many of the stuff here is what you LEARN DURING THE PROCESS of playing guitar.

some where very insignificant as well.

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post Nov 23 2007, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE (FretDancer69 @ Nov 23 2007, 03:57 PM) *
some where very dumb imo, many of the stuff here is what you LEARN DURING THE PROCESS of playing guitar.

some where very insignificant as well.


This is to guide beginners so they don't make these mistakes when they don't realize they are doing so or don't know any better so it may be help to certain people.
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 23 2007, 03:01 PM) *
This is to guide beginners so they don't make these mistakes when they don't realize they are doing so or don't know any better so it may be help to certain people.


yeah but what about "Weak Vibrato"...? huh.gif


what do you expect from a beginner? certainly not a Vibrato like Marcus's


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