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post Nov 23 2007, 10:14 PM
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QUOTE (FretDancer69 @ Nov 23 2007, 04:05 PM) *
yeah but what about "Weak Vibrato"...? huh.gif
what do you expect from a beginner? certainly not a Vibrato like Marcus's


Of course not but they will realize they may have to practice it if they read that and think to themselves, "Hey, I need to work on that." It's just used as a guideline to help the beginners out and lead them in the right direction.
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post Nov 23 2007, 10:16 PM
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Poor phrasing and weak vibrato is something every beginner has. When you have great phrasing and vibrato you're no longer a beginner...

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post Nov 23 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (botoxfox @ Nov 23 2007, 10:16 PM) *
Poor phrasing and weak vibrato is something every beginner has. When you have great phrasing and vibrato you're no longer a beginner...

I agree. The parts about vibrato/bending and phrasing was stupid.


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post Nov 23 2007, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE (botoxfox @ Nov 23 2007, 04:16 PM) *
Poor phrasing and weak vibrato is something every beginner has. When you have great phrasing and vibrato you're no longer a beginner...


Exactly, and seeing that on the list will encourage the beginners to work on that.

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post Nov 24 2007, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (Unleash-The-Shred @ Nov 23 2007, 10:18 PM) *
Exactly, and see that on the list will encourage the beginners to work on that.



I agree here. No one said that if you doesn´t have a week vibrato you got a great vibrato. wink.gif
I´m bold enough to suggest there is something like an "descent vibrato", "ok vibrato", "not totally awful" or perhaps when you start becoming a descent guitar player, "good vibrato" tongue.gif

As a total beginner you suck at everything. But I think what the list is trying to say is that vibrato is something a begginer often neglect, do not practise (on purpose that is) so he doesn´t really advance from that very beginner state. Since there is probably different levels of beginners smile.gif

Not saying it is true that beginners have weak vibrato. I have not listened to a beginner in over 5 years. Just started playing again (by my own at home).
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post Nov 24 2007, 01:53 PM
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Eric Clapton stated that the most difficult thing to achieve when being a guitar player is natural soundind and good vibrato. So, i think he is right. UNfortunately many guitarists do neglect it instead of developing it. VIbrato exercises are very boring BUT you can for example watch TV and do them wink.gif


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post Nov 25 2007, 07:44 AM
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I find vibrato to be a fun thing to mess around with. Just improvizing, and using vibrato to give it a bit of dramatic effect is always something fun. I usually try to play something along the lines of one of Marcus's Vibrato lessons.


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post Nov 26 2007, 11:01 PM
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I am a beginner and being one I agree!!!
But I already have crossed out a few of those mistakes. smile.gif
Once I'm done with them all I'll let you know!!!
Cheers to all of you, you're all great smile.gif
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post Nov 27 2007, 03:18 PM
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Roflmao!!! laugh.gif

I'm certainly guilty of a few beginers mistakes there!!

For number 38 I know a mate who took up bass due to he had large fingers!!!

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QUOTE (Crazyfret @ Nov 27 2007, 06:18 AM) *
Roflmao!!! laugh.gif

I'm certainly guilty of a few beginers mistakes there!!

For number 38 I know a mate who took up bass due to he had large fingers!!!




Large Fingers? Bass ? Maybe but look what large fingers does for Paul Gilbert rolleyes.gif ........ tongue.gif


Im guilty of learning alot of intros and not alot of songs, but personally I find learning songs boring. Rather make my own stuff ! smile.gif


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post Nov 27 2007, 09:45 PM
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Whoops, wrong thread...

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Whats wrong with taking guitar lessons from friends? laugh.gif

Anyway, some of that stuff on the list is kind of dumb but a lot of it is true. Proud to say I only fall into a few of those categories. Maybe I'm finally an "intermediate" player tongue.gif


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post Nov 27 2007, 10:04 PM
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haha funny lol
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QUOTE (Eat-Sleep-andJam @ Nov 27 2007, 03:36 PM) *
Large Fingers? Bass ? Maybe but look what large fingers does for Paul Gilbert rolleyes.gif ........ tongue.gif
Im guilty of learning alot of intros and not alot of songs, but personally I find learning songs boring. Rather make my own stuff ! smile.gif


Paul Gilbert doesn't have big fingers he has long fingers. I think Crazyfret meant fat fingers.
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that makes me smile because i used to be guilty of so many...


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post Nov 29 2007, 02:53 AM
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Thinking that playing the local bar circuit constitutes a "tour".
dang it. sad.gif lol
But I'm starting to take lessons from a friend, but if he can play eruption backwards while i'm watching, (he's done that before. IT WAS AMAZING!!!!!!) it's not such a bad idea.

oh yeah, I forgot I'm guilty of this it was my first time there.

Tuning every guitar at Guitar Center to dropped D, and not returning them to standard pitch.

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The one about relying on picks is stupid. What do they expect you to do? Fingerpick steel-string electrics? You hardly ever see a pro doing that. And the list says that beginners only concentrate on one style. Well yea if you fingerpick all the time you aren't gonna get past classical music and maybe some bluegrass or something. Metal, progressive rock, blues, etc, are all out of the question.

Anyway, the ones that apply to me most are relying too much on tabs and sheet music to learn songs, although I do think that learning to sight-read is EXTREMELY and equally important as ear training and don't understand why they are putting it down. I like to learn stuff from classical composers like Mozart, Bach, etc. What do they expect me to do to learn their stuff when there is no recordings? My only option is sheet music.

The ones that don't apply to me, and make me proud of, are the ones that have to do with buying too much gear and concentrating more on gear than on actual skill, and the ones that involve vibrato, phrasing, and music theory. Everyone I know neglects all of the above but I made sure to not make the same mistake.

EDIT: And oh yea, two I think they left off are. Thinking guitars are made to be 100% downpicked, for example I wasn't even introduced to economy picking until about 8 months in, which was a bad habit, which I had to spend even more time on fixing into 100% alternate. And another is thinking that everything will be free. Like some people don't want to get lessons, don't want to use programs like GMC, don't want to buy books, just want to spend money on gear and think that free (often-low quality) lessons are gonna cut it.

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post Nov 30 2007, 12:39 PM
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thanks for the topic, and the info posted.
it really helped, i looked at it and i quickly found at least 7 things i am doing.
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Haha, thats a hilarious (but also true) list! laugh.gif

I too have a couple of areas I need to work on smile.gif


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These are very true, and useful because you can make sure you don't fall into any of those traps!


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