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David Wallimann
post Nov 30 2007, 08:42 PM
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I've been seriously thinking about switching to a Variax and a VettaII amp..
Has anone had experience with any of thse?


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post Nov 30 2007, 08:49 PM
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VettaII is REALLY expensive - it's the most expensive product from Line6 - but unfortunately i have never tried any of Line6 gear.


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post Nov 30 2007, 08:52 PM
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I tried the vetta II combo a while back gotta say I wasn't overly keen on it. Sounds a little too clinical, don't get me wrong I love line 6 products in general especially my toneport but the vetta didn't sound quite as good in my personal opinion.

It sounded very bass heavy and didn't give that saturated feeling you get from a loud tube amp when its turned up.

Overall I would say for home recording get yourself a POD and use it to play around at home as well but if your gonna use it for live work (which is the only real reason to get a vetta) its better to have a rack system or just a decent quality tube amp.


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post Nov 30 2007, 09:00 PM
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Thanks Alex,
the main thing I need is for recording. I do some studio work here along with my band's albums and need something very efficiant. I was looking for a good Direct alternative, setting up the mics in studio is a pain and I can't really play too loud where I live.
I'll try o find a store here that as some so that I can try them out myself.
Still waiting for Muris samples of his new Ebay toys he got! :-)



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I tried the vetta II combo a while back gotta say I wasn't overly keen on it. Sounds a little too clinical, don't get me wrong I love line 6 products in general especially my toneport but the vetta didn't sound quite as good in my personal opinion.

It sounded very bass heavy and didn't give that saturated feeling you get from a loud tube amp when its turned up.

Overall I would say for home recording get yourself a POD and use it to play around at home as well but if your gonna use it for live work (which is the only real reason to get a vetta) its better to have a rack system or just a decent quality tube amp.
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post Nov 30 2007, 09:08 PM
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I have a Variax and it is an amazingly versatile guitar - add a Vetta or a Pod and you can switch variax patches along with the amp patches. This ouwld be a killer combination if you need to switch from say twangy funk to heavy distortion between songs without changing guitars.


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Yeah!
That's what seems so interesting to me. Especially on a recording point of view where I need to be versatile. The direct record out seems great too according to the samples I heard.
Thanks Andrew...

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I have a Variax and it is an amazingly versatile guitar - add a Vetta or a Pod and you can switch variax patches along with the amp patches. This ouwld be a killer combination if you need to switch from say twangy funk to heavy distortion between songs without changing guitars.


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post Nov 30 2007, 09:37 PM
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If its for recording honestly the best thing is to get a toneport UX2 or even the toneport with keyboard can't remember the name but its awesome.

Plugs directly into USB on your P.C so no need for a fantastic soundcard and includes two MIC inputs (with phantom power) two guitar inputs (one for standard and one for active pickup guitars) two line in inputs two analogue outs for connecting to speakers as well as a stereo monitor in.

Most importantly though it comes bundled with the gearbox software which is absolutely amazing as it includes all the things you have in a POD xt however its so much easier to tweak the effects and cabinet models.

Having this means you can also purchase add on models for FX, classic amps, metal amps as well as use the online tone library which can't be done on the POD or Vetta to my knowledge.

Put it this way I have done all my recording using this so check out the members uploads and hear what I mean also the backing track for the metal collab was done using this aswell.

Trust me it solved all my recording problems


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post Nov 30 2007, 09:45 PM
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Thanks a lot Alex, I wil che`ck that out as well!
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QUOTE (Alex Lewis @ Nov 30 2007, 03:37 PM) *
If its for recording honestly the best thing is to get a toneport UX2 or even the toneport with keyboard can't remember the name but its awesome.

Plugs directly into USB on your P.C so no need for a fantastic soundcard and includes two MIC inputs (with phantom power) two guitar inputs (one for standard and one for active pickup guitars) two line in inputs two analogue outs for connecting to speakers as well as a stereo monitor in.

Most importantly though it comes bundled with the gearbox software which is absolutely amazing as it includes all the things you have in a POD xt however its so much easier to tweak the effects and cabinet models.

Having this means you can also purchase add on models for FX, classic amps, metal amps as well as use the online tone library which can't be done on the POD or Vetta to my knowledge.

Put it this way I have done all my recording using this so check out the members uploads and hear what I mean also the backing track for the metal collab was done using this aswell.

Trust me it solved all my recording problems


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From what I understand ZenTera is the studio amp.
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post Dec 1 2007, 01:19 AM
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Line6 amps are in my oppinion good, but my advice is too buy something more specific-sounding and try some pedals. If you wanna record, buy toneport, but don`t buy a Vetta only for that. FOr playing loud you have great other amps. I don`t know what sound are you looking for, maybe if you write it I`lltry my best to help you out man. Cheers:)


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post Dec 1 2007, 10:54 AM
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+1 with MickeM - ZenTera is an amazing modeling amp but expensive - about 1.5 -2 times the price of the Line Vetta ii. I've tried the Vetta etc and had the same impression as Alex - sounded fine for a while but were rather sterile over a longer period.

David if you want an amp for recording but if it doesn't have to be a modeler then there are some very good preamps from Engl - the 530, 570 and 580. All do a compensated out for recording. 530 is about 450Euros and so probably about 500 USD, 570 would be more like 1500USD and so on. All the Engls are, I think, valve and the 570 and 580 are midi compatible. Similarly there are the Recording Rectifier and the Triaxis from Mesa that are worth a look.

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Thanks for your input, I'm consideig a triaxis too. Waiting for Muris' soundclips!
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+1 with MickeM - ZenTera is an amazing modeling amp but expensive - about 1.5 -2 times the price of the Line Vetta ii. I've tried the Vetta etc and had the same impression as Alex - sounded fine for a while but were rather sterile over a longer period.

David if you want an amp for recording but if it doesn't have to be a modeler then there are some very good preamps from Engl - the 530, 570 and 580. All do a compensated out for recording. 530 is about 450Euros and so probably about 500 USD, 570 would be more like 1500USD and so on. All the Engls are, I think, valve and the 570 and 580 are midi compatible. Similarly there are the Recording Rectifier and the Triaxis from Mesa that are worth a look.

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post Dec 10 2007, 11:04 PM
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Another way would be to buy a tube amp and a speaker simulator, this way you could play the tube amp with your headphones and record with it without having to mic up cabs and such. Palmer makes good speaker simulators, but I know some people who use tube amps with their PodXT's speaker simulator smile.gif

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