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Should a first year player buy Multieffect?
Should a first year player buy Multieffect?
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post Nov 30 2007, 10:00 PM
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Hi guys,

I'm on my first year of playing Electric guitar.

I aware that maybe it's too fast to get a multieffect which cost almost 500$...

Digitech GNX4

What do you ppl think about this...? is it too fast or not for a first year playing guitar...

Or any suggestion

I have looked thought the internet will alot of details and all tech infos too.

and i got this suggestion from 2-3 guys ....

By the way...if its not a bad idea..i will get it when i complete one year in guitar playing...

Study hard for this^^'
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post Nov 30 2007, 10:09 PM
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500$?!?! wow that's pricey!
maybe you should get something cheaper? even a POD is cheaper.

Anyways, if you decide to get one, it doesn't matter how long you play, in my opinion, just make sure you buy something good that can last you for several years!

My suggestion would be to get either a line6 toneport or a zoom multieffect, both preety cheap and high quality smile.gif


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post Nov 30 2007, 10:28 PM
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QUOTE (TheReturnFC-Ibanez @ Nov 30 2007, 04:00 PM) *
Hi guys,

I'm on my first year of playing Electric guitar.

I aware that maybe it's too fast to get a multieffect which cost almost 500$...

Digitech GNX4

What do you ppl think about this...? is it too fast or not for a first year playing guitar...

Or any suggestion

I have looked thought the internet will alot of details and all tech infos too.

and i got this suggestion from 2-3 guys ....

By the way...if its not a bad idea..i will get it when i complete one year in guitar playing...

Study hard for this^^'

Nothing wrong with getting a multi-fx. The trick is to not rely on it too much. Thats not just for the beginner, thats for all guitar players. The honest truth is this. No matter how many "unique" sounds any multi-fx produces, you are only going to use a few. I have a Zoom G2 and a Korg Pandora. Both produce a lot of great tones, but the fact is, only a few are really useful.
Ok folks...what do the rest of ya think? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 30 2007, 10:31 PM
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yea why not? as the other post, says dont rely too much on it to begin with, but why not play around with some sounds smile.gif


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post Dec 1 2007, 01:24 AM
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Forget a Digitech and get a Boss GT8 floor or rack version. You can find it at about ~450$. This is everything that you will ever need from a processor unit.

BUT (always a but smile.gif ). Like Lefty wrote, don`t use many effects at a time, use only distortions for a while, then move on to amps, all just one by one. WHen you know all the effects, you can start to combine them. Off course don`t relly much on presets from other users because you have your own gear.


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post Dec 1 2007, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Nov 30 2007, 07:24 PM) *
Forget a Digitech and get a Boss GT8 floor or rack version. You can find it at about ~450$. This is everything that you will ever need from a processor unit.

BUT (always a but smile.gif ). Like Lefty wrote, don`t use many effects at a time, use only distortions for a while, then move on to amps, all just one by one. WHen you know all the effects, you can start to combine them. Off course don`t relly much on presets from other users because you have your own gear.

That is some great advice. I have been through a number of pedals and multi-fx. Whenever I was lost with my playing, I thought getting another fx would help, but not true. I spent countless hours scrolling through a bunch of presets, and ended-up back with just distortion, a touch of delay and some chorus. I know it depends on the player, but sometimes the most simple approach can give the biggest result.
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post Dec 1 2007, 06:31 PM
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Great advice from everyone. I say go for it, especially if it will give you extra motivation to play. I bought a DOD FX7 (cheap multiboard) for practice several years ago, but I haven't used it much (and it can't keep up with a flurry of notes, so it cuts out). After joining this site and seeing what everyone sounds like, I'm thinking of a higher quality replacement (like the POD XT Live). I sure wish I had bought a better multiboard to begin with...

This leads me to a novice question for everyone out there... any set-up suggestions for playing backing tracks and the multiboard through headphones? How about playing the backing tracks along with the amp (Fender Stage 112 SE). My amp easily overpowers my flimsy computer speakers and I'm probably the only musician out there without a stereo system (just a crappy CD player)... I'm looking for cheap and easy suggestions and thanks in advance!

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I voted yes ,but i wouldnt go spend $500.00 on one.More like i would get a zoom for under $100.00 USD to find out how much i liked them and how much i would use it first. smile.gif


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For that money you can get the POD XT live- which apparently kicks the Digitech's ass.
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This is just my opinion but...

I think beginner guitarists spend way too much time and money on gear, and not enough time on skill. With $500 I would buy a ton of books and CDs, they will help you WAY more. All you need is a decent guitar and a decent amp. And then overtime MAYBE a few effects, but don't get to caught up in gear. Gear will only make you sound better than others if you are already better than others, skill-wise.

If you play a lot live, then gear is probably a big aspect of playing, but I can't stand people who practice from their house and think they need a full stack, 100 effects, and a $4000 guitar to practice...just my opinion though.

I don't play on buying much more gear until I have memorized and mastered the fretboard, know a TON about theory, can play 16th note soloes at 200 BPM, and can play about 5 styles decently (Metal, Blues, Jazz, Classical, Neo-Classical, and Progressive)

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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Dec 1 2007, 02:33 PM) *
This is just my opinion but...

I think beginner guitarists spend way too much time and money on gear, and not enough time on skill. With $500 I would buy a ton of books and CDs, they will help you WAY more. All you need is a decent guitar and a decent amp. And then overtime MAYBE a few effects, but don't get to caught up in gear. Gear will only make you sound better than others if you are already better than others, skill-wise.

If you play a lot live, then gear is probably a big aspect of playing, but I can't stand people who practice from their house and think they need a full stack, 100 effects, and a $4000 guitar to practice...just my opinion though.

I don't play on buying much more gear until I have memorized and mastered the fretboard, know a TON about theory, can play 16th note soloes at 200 BPM, and can play about 5 styles decently (Metal, Blues, Jazz, Classical, Neo-Classical, and Progressive)


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i don't totally agree with that statement, because I was in the same boat the original poster was in. New guitarist and I got a really cheap Zoom 505II pedal. It's probly the crappiest multieffects pedal ever made and i still love it and im glad iv had it all along. It was more of a motivational thing for me, if i could get my setup to sound even remotely close to that of the instructor giving the lesson on here, it made me want to learn to play it more. Sure it can be used to mask some not so great playing with neat effects, but it also is a great tool to have to keep a newer guitarist interested, giving them more cool sounds that they can practice with.


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post Dec 1 2007, 10:13 PM
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I think anything that makes playing more fun is money well spent. For me I love messing with my effects. Because I started playing in the mid-80's, it was sometimes discouraging trying to dial in the sound I wanted. Since the advent of relatively low cost, high quality mfx, the beginner can get great tones without spending thousands on expensive amps and efx.


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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Dec 1 2007, 04:33 PM) *
This is just my opinion but...

I think beginner guitarists spend way too much time and money on gear, and not enough time on skill. With $500 I would buy a ton of books and CDs, they will help you WAY more. All you need is a decent guitar and a decent amp. And then overtime MAYBE a few effects, but don't get to caught up in gear. Gear will only make you sound better than others if you are already better than others, skill-wise.

If you play a lot live, then gear is probably a big aspect of playing, but I can't stand people who practice from their house and think they need a full stack, 100 effects, and a $4000 guitar to practice...just my opinion though.

I don't play on buying much more gear until I have memorized and mastered the fretboard, know a TON about theory, can play 16th note soloes at 200 BPM, and can play about 5 styles decently (Metal, Blues, Jazz, Classical, Neo-Classical, and Progressive)


i do agree with this comment

I should buy some books to learn something new...that is one of the reason i save my money for this site too... but those are too expensive sometime...

however i felt that to buy the stompbox would be expensive...and sometime you can not tweak it much...except those modified ones.....

I look for gnx4 because it has record function...and i heard bass modeling too which is quite ok... drum machine too...i do not have a band yet...but i love to play and jam alot although little knowledge...but it makes me get into more sense of music. I have no chance of recording professionally...and i love to everything by myself too...that is one reasons instead of gnx3000...

Maybe...after 1 year i might buy one ...but stompbox or multipedal would be another ideas.....

Basically i love all sort of music...from metal to jazz rock pop punk...hard rock whatever classical name it...except hip r&b...

So this what make me think about buying a multieffect....

I wish to hear more comment on this too

Thanks to all comment above...i'm not buying yet...i'm just looking forward to it...

I know my potential...which i know what i can have and what i should not....

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Do you have a good guitar and amp ? I think you should first look at a guitar, than amp and then effects..Also I think that pedal effects are a much better solution than multifx...and more fun also,and can fit under 500$ too! There are some loop pedals out there (for recording layers and jamming)..Also for jamming is good Guitar Port from Line6 (You can hookup and play on your computer) , Tone Port have the same function for guitar and allows you to record mic-s etc...Be careful 500$ is a lot of money...Be sure to spend it right..And I don't think beginners should not buy expensive equipment , if you can do it ! Just consider what you need...


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Nice comment above there!

I'm international student, living in canada.

I felt that to carry amp back to home(other country) is no a really good choice(10kgs....)

so actually i look for something that would work for me anywhere.....

I have no clue about recording stuff much...and it's not that easy for a student to carry all stuff...

I think stompbox is not a bad idea but since i got no amp at all...( i own 30x roland cube which i feel after half-year that it's not suit me at all. After i try so many amp in guitarshop and my friends here too!)
I might have to use this amp for 2 year before i graduate here in the high school.
I will get a better amp when i get a fixed place to stay for longer.

My guitar is Ibanez rg321, fixed bridge. i will buy a new guitar 2 years after when i proof my skills. I feel that this ibanez axe is good enough for me to learn something untill i will grab a new one...

I'm saving money badly ^^
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QUOTE (Milenkovic Ivan @ Nov 30 2007, 09:24 PM) *
Forget a Digitech and get a Boss GT8 floor or rack version. You can find it at about ~450$. This is everything that you will ever need from a processor unit.

BUT (always a but smile.gif ). Like Lefty wrote, don`t use many effects at a time, use only distortions for a while, then move on to amps, all just one by one. WHen you know all the effects, you can start to combine them. Off course don`t relly much on presets from other users because you have your own gear.



I heard that boss gt8 is too complicated...and the sound this not that good for Mfx...but Stompbox is AWESOME.... laugh.gif laugh.gif

I gonna play all kind of music...that is the point of buying mfx....

But what i really like is buy such that the i would not buy again for serveral years....

however i love stompbox too.. i love to mess with it ( like technician ppl ) lol

I really have to look for a good choice...
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I've never used a Digitech multi-effects pedal, but I've heard bad things about them...

I have a Boss GT-8, and I am very content with it! My friend recently got a POD Live, and after messing around with it for a few hours, I've decided that, while it is useful in many ways, it is not near as good as the GT-8. However, there are some things to consider about it!

The GT-8 is more expensive than the POD, and the POD seems a lot simpler to use than the GT-8. The GT-8 has many more effects, options, more stuff in general than the POD, and in my opinion, it sounds a little better, too.

So, it depends what you're looking for in it. The truth is, you're probably never going to use most of the things on the GT-8. But, it's always nice to have options! The GT-8 is also going to have a much steeper learning curve, and you're going to have to devote some time (with any multi-effects, really) to messing around with it and figuring it all out. I would try to mostly stay away from presets and try to create patches that are really the sound you want.

Keep in mind, this is all just one guy's opinion of it, in fact, if you can, I would recommend going to a store and trying both out and see what you think of them!

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