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post Dec 12 2007, 03:05 AM
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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Dec 11 2007, 08:57 PM) *
The String Theory always interested me smile.gif

Me too - lately I have lost a little faith though - they seem to be employing the Anthropic Principle to compensate for the fact that they can't get any exact predictions out of it, which leaves a little bit of a bad taste ...

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QUOTE (The Uncreator @ Dec 11 2007, 07:57 PM) *
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that belongs in Tony's area, seriously. Real science requires that models can be empirically tested for validity, at least at some point. If you listen t some of these guys, as brilliant as they are, they often lose the ability to distinguish abstraction from reality. None of this is "real". All models, abstractions. But it seems to me, listening to most scientists, they just lose the distinction. Even Einstein. Saying "God did not roll dice". I mean, if quantum physics tested out, that is that. Until you have another better model. But it has nothing to do with God or reality. Just a model, a theory, and abstraction. It is really not true or false. It either explains things as best we can at the time, or it does not.

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+1 with fkalich.

An interesting explanation of how we come to adopt a scientific explanation/theory/model (sorry can't recall the title) was written by Thomas Kuhn way back in the 50s - from a different angle/opinion there's also Karl Popper. A somewhat more philosophical view was Michel Foucault's 'Order of things' and more specifically about scientific method Paul Feyerabend's 'Against Method'. If you get really interested in the issues concerning reflexivity and method/ology then there is also Rodolphe Gasche's 'Tain of the mirror' - Gasche though tends to assume that anyone reading his work has a ready, or at least reasonable, familiarity with Hegel, Husserl, Derrida, Kant, Heidegger and a few others. If you have Gasche's is a great read - actually all of Gasche's stuff is good.


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