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CheeseBeard
post Dec 19 2007, 05:28 PM
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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone had any advice on how to add vibrato to bends? I'm having trouble doing this and i cant make it sound right when I do it. If it helps, I usually use three fingers for bending - two for pushing the string up and the other for muting the next string.

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post Dec 19 2007, 06:24 PM
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Well the way I tend to do it is to bend up to note X, and then add vibrato by bending it up another quarter tone or so, and releasing it back down to note X repeatedly.
The key to get nice sounding vibrato is to make sure your doing it in time with the music. You can either do it slow or fast, depending on the effect you want.
A good way to improve vibrato is to practice it to a metronome! (like most things). You should practice doing vibrato in quavers, quaver triplets and semi quavers at various tempos.

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Edit: I forgot to mention, I very often do vibrato with the whammy bar when I am hitting a bent note. Vibrato with the whammy bar has a very different sound and I find it gives an especially nice sound when used in combination with bending up to a note.

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post Dec 19 2007, 07:41 PM
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This is a technique I only just nailed - and its hard. Do as David says, and don;t expect it to sound right straight away, it took me a couple of months at least of fairly constant practice before I started to get it. Its a cool technique though, adds a lot of maturity to your phrasing so is well worth the effort!


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post Dec 19 2007, 10:34 PM
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You must practice bending vibrato the same way you practice regular vibrato, BUT only here you must vibrate the string up and down while on the bended note. Simple isn't it? Practice all your fingers to get more control. When you are practicing bending vibrato you are also practicing regular vibrato. Have fun smile.gif


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post Dec 20 2007, 12:46 AM
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Ah thanks a lot for all the help. I guess i need to practise adding vibrato once i've reached the note i'm bending the string to...i have a feeling i'm currently adding vibrato whilst still in the process of bending the string up tongue.gif. That will be why it's not sounding too good.

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post Dec 21 2007, 12:21 AM
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Here's a tip that helped me greatly. Instead of doing the vibrato and normal speed slow it down a lot. So lets say normally you'd bend up then apply a quick vibrato, instead, do a bend up, hold it, then add a very shallow and slow vibrato, when you can do that to perfection make it a bit quicker and wider. That way you're gradually learning how to do it.
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post Dec 21 2007, 04:17 AM
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I don't know why but bent vibrato came really easy to me. I learned the Tornado of Souls solo by Megadeth which has a lot of slow bends and vibrato and it just hit me and I and was able to almost replicate Marty Friedman's vibrato. You should try that solo, it has a lot of good techniques in it for practicing. In fact, alot of Megadeth songs are good for practicing, second solo in Hangar 18 is good for sweeps, 11th (final) solo is good for fast alternate picking.

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post Dec 21 2007, 04:21 AM
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QUOTE (shellshock1911 @ Dec 20 2007, 03:17 PM) *
I don't know why but bent vibrato came really easy to me. I learned the Tornado of Souls solo by Megadeth which has a lot of slow bends and vibrato and it just hit me and I and was able to almost replicate Marty Friedman's vibrato. You should try that solo, it has a lot of good techniques in it for practicing.


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post Dec 21 2007, 05:58 PM
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I agree with what everyone said before me.
Another way to go about it would be to watch one of the instructors on this site, and study how they add vibrato to thier bends. I can't see how this couldn't help.
And you are right, it isn't very easy when you try to bend and vibrato at the same time, but bending to a note and then adding vibrato once you reached your target pitch is much easier.
This is another thing that the more you do it the better you get at it, so just keep practicing and you'll get the sound that you want!


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post Dec 21 2007, 06:07 PM
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a friend of mine who used to play guitar was in my room and i was just playing guitar. i asked him about vibrato and he told me that you just wake up one morning and you can do it.

now i dont know why he said that, but 2 days later i woke up and could do vibrato. i must have had a mental block on it.
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QUOTE (muntahunta @ Dec 21 2007, 05:07 AM) *
a friend of mine who used to play guitar was in my room and i was just playing guitar. i asked him about vibrato and he told me that you just wake up one morning and you can do it.

now i dont know why he said that, but 2 days later i woke up and could do vibrato. i must have had a mental block on it.
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Watch as two days from now, everyone at GMC who couldnt do it before suddenly wakes up and does it biggrin.gif


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that would be waaaaaaaay too creepy!
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post Dec 22 2007, 02:46 AM
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Hey guys, I have a question on this topic. What's the difference in a bend up toward you, or the low E versus pulling the string down toward the high E. My bends sound alot better when I pull toward the high E but I noticed that players do bend the other way most of the time. Am I practicing a bad technique?

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post Dec 22 2007, 09:21 AM
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@ skennington,
No, you're not practicing a bad technique! But it's good if you are able to bend it both up and down.


@ CheeseBeard,
I talk a little about this in my third vibrato lesson. Check out vid #1. smile.gif


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post Dec 22 2007, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE (lavendell @ Dec 22 2007, 03:21 AM) *
@ skennington,
No, you're not practicing a bad technique! But it's good if you are able to bend it both up and down.
@ CheeseBeard,
I talk a little about this in my third vibrato lesson. Check out vid #1. smile.gif
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Thanks Marcus, nice to know I don't have to worry about that. I am working on bending up as well. Bending with vibrato feels very natural to me. I do it sometimes when I should'nt! ohmy.gif


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post Dec 22 2007, 09:04 PM
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Thanks for all the great tips/advice biggrin.gif
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post Dec 27 2007, 08:25 AM
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QUOTE (muntahunta @ Dec 21 2007, 01:07 PM) *
a friend of mine who used to play guitar was in my room and i was just playing guitar. i asked him about vibrato and he told me that you just wake up one morning and you can do it.

now i dont know why he said that, but 2 days later i woke up and could do vibrato. i must have had a mental block on it.
wierd tongue.gif


Haha, well I read this like 3 days ago or something, I it just came to me last night. Before then, I would bend up to pitch and try to add vibrato like on Muris's Lukather lesson and I just couldn't keep my fingers up there while using vibrato and now all the sudden it just clicked and I can bend up and vibrato with any finger. This was too weird but hey, im not complaining.


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