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Guitarman700
Why do people think these are good quality guitars? EVERY SINGLE dean ive ever played, all 26 of the, have had something break WHILE IM PLAYING THEM. blink.gif and dont even get my started on the razorbacks, made in china? huh.gif forget it. im highly doubtfull that dime actually designed these things, and if he did he would be disappointed. so please, why are these things considered good?
bsamn
Hey,

Hmm.... unsure.gif
Are u sure they were not low end models, i mean im sure the higher ones are very good.
A friend of mine bought a dean a year back, i played on it, and wasnt all that bad.
I mean im sure people wont just buy just like that.
Though im not big fan of dean, im sure they make some mighty fine guitars.
visi0n
never played on the Dean guitars, i dont like the shape of the guitar himself .. so but i need to try one someday XD
Pavel
Dean wouldn't have all those artists having their signature models made by Dean if it sucked so am 100% sure it was your bad luck smile.gif
xucphra
I get what you mean. All the Deans I have played never seem.....right.
SLASH91
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dean wouldn't have all those artists having their signature models made by Dean if it sucked so am 100% sure it was your bad luck smile.gif


+1

Michael Angelo Batio, Rusty Cooley, Nile, The Scheckner Brothers, the list goes on and on. They can't be all bad.
OrganisedConfusion
Dean guitars are some of the worst guitars out there.
swingline
QUOTE (SLASH91 @ Feb 17 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
+1

Michael Angelo Batio, Rusty Cooley, Nile, The Scheckner Brothers, the list goes on and on. They can't be all bad.

+2 Don't forget Dime and Dave Mustaine. And I think Deans are great, but I did notice that at Guitar Center they are often very messed up because people who know nothing about guitars are instantly attracted to them and screw something up. I would say they're of the same quality as any other main stream company.
Pavel
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 17 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dean guitars are some of the worst guitars out there.



laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now that's the most argumented post i've ever seen laugh.gif laugh.gif If you are saying something THAT GENERAL at least post some "proof".

I'm sorry but the word of MAB and Rusty to me means a lot if you ask about shredding and Dean guitars wink.gif
OrganisedConfusion
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 08:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Now that's the most argumented post i've ever seen laugh.gif laugh.gif If you are saying something THAT GENERAL at least post some "proof".

I'm sorry but the word of MAB and Rusty to me means a lot if you ask about shredding and Dean guitars wink.gif

Lets all buy Dean guitars just because Dimebag played one. They are useless pieces of junk and making money off a dead man. That is nice of them. I hate Dean with a Passion. I hope they go bankrupt and then at least they can't sell guitars that Dimebag would be embarrassed by.

Others may feel different. That is my opinion.
Guitarman700
their playing on custom shop models. im mainly talking about the razorbacks and any of the other models dean has put out to make money off a dead man. if you want i could link all the deans ive played. in my opinion theyre just overpriced junk.
swingline
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 17 2008, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Lets all buy Dean guitars just because Dimebag played one. They are useless pieces of junk and making money off a dead man. That is nice of them. I hate Dean with a Passion. I hope they go bankrupt and then at least they can't sell guitars that Dimebag would be embarrassed by.

Others may feel different. That is my opinion.


People turned towards Dean even long before Dimebag. For goodness sake, Kansas plays Dean Guitars.
Pavel
Did i ever say a word about Dimebag?

Vinnie Moore just got his signature model this year and i wouldn't say he's a guy who would play a "piece of junk" wink.gif
Is MAB the guy who plays a piece of junk? Or Rusty? I don't think so...and as SLASH91 said: "The list goes on!"


Talking about Guitar Centers - even JEM sucks at guitar center because it is off the wall after all the transportation and temperature changes. I bought my JEM with an aweful setup, but after i got it home and did my own setup it turned into a shred-machine smile.gif
OrganisedConfusion
QUOTE (swingline @ Feb 17 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
People turned towards Dean even long before Dimebag. For goodness sake, Kansas plays Dean Guitars.

Well not me. I stay well clear.
Pavel
QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Feb 17 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
their playing on custom shop models. im mainly talking about the razorbacks and any of the other models dean has put out to make money off a dead man. if you want i could link all the deans ive played. in my opinion theyre just overpriced junk.


I never look at low-priced guitars because in my opinion, the only low-priced guitar that is good is Ibanez RG series.
OrganisedConfusion
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Did i ever say a word about Dimebag?

Vinnie Moore just got his signature model this year and i wouldn't say he's a guy who would play a "piece of junk" wink.gif
Is MAB the guy who plays a piece of junk? Or Rusty? I don't think so...and as SLASH91 said: "The list goes on!"


Talking about Guitar Centers - even JEM sucks at guitar center because it is off the wall after all the transportation and temperature changes. I bought my JEM with an aweful setup, but after i got it home and did my own setup it turned into a shred-machine smile.gif

They probably just couldn't get an artist model from anybody else. biggrin.gif
swingline
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I never look at low-priced guitars because in my opinion, the only low-priced guitar that is good is Ibanez RG series.


What is your definition of "low-priced"?
SLASH91
Look at all of these artists, There's no way that they can be pieces of crap.
Guitarman700
Seriously, for $1,100 a razorback should be made in the U.S.A and have an original floyd rose, not some crappy tremolo arm made in china by prepubescent children shackled to chairs working for 12 cents an hour.
Edit:all those artists are playing on custom shop models. maybe dean should just cater to pros!
Pavel
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 17 2008, 09:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They probably just couldn't get an artist model from anybody else. biggrin.gif


Rusty had his contracts with Jackson and Ibanez, MAB had 3 of his signature guitars made by Charvel so i think your theory is falling apart wink.gif
Pavel
QUOTE (swingline @ Feb 17 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is your definition of "low-priced"?


Everything below 500$
SLASH91
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 17 2008, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
They probably just couldn't get an artist model from anybody else. biggrin.gif


Yeah, I'm sure that Dave Mustaine couldn't get his artist model with any one else. tongue.gif

I mean come on, I watched an interview in which he said that Deans were the best guitars that he had ever played, And he has played a guitar from like every major company out there. I'm not saying that he's right, but it's a professional ooppinion. smile.gif
Guitarman700
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everything below 500$

my jackson is priced $450 and its not crap.
ANOTHER edit; again, all these artists are playing CUSTOM MADE GUITARS.
swingline
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Everything below 500$


Alright I thought you meant like $1200.
OrganisedConfusion
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 08:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rusty had his contracts with Jackson and Ibanez, MAB had 3 of his signature guitars made by Charvel so i think your theory is falling apart wink.gif

I was just joking tongue.gif I really dislike Dean. A lot of artists use Dimebag guitars and it annoys me. Those other custom artists don't but they have their own custom guitars. The standard series of Dean are poor quality instruments I always find. I much prefer my Parker and Caparison guitars as they always seem to be lovingly crafted and are worth every penny.
OrganisedConfusion
QUOTE (SLASH91 @ Feb 17 2008, 08:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I'm sure that Dave Mustaine couldn't get his artist model with any one else. tongue.gif

I mean come on, I watched an interview in which he said that Deans were the best guitars that he had ever played, And he has played a guitar from like every major company out there. I'm not saying that he's right, but it's a professional ooppinion. smile.gif

Again I was just joking but Dave has probably annoyed every other company to the point of them not dealing with him tongue.gif He's been through every company smile.gif I love Megadeth and Dave but he can be annoying at times biggrin.gif
swingline
QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Feb 17 2008, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously, for $1,100 a razorback should be made in the U.S.A and have an original floyd rose, not some crappy tremolo arm made in china by prepubescent children shackled to chairs working for 12 cents an hour.


Those are Licensed Double-Locking Floyd Rose. I pulled it right of the site.
SLASH91
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 17 2008, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love Megadeth and Dave but he can be annoying at times biggrin.gif


Tis true tongue.gif
Guitarman700
QUOTE (swingline @ Feb 17 2008, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Those are Licensed Double-Locking Floyd Rose. I pulled it right of the site.

their made by Ping in china. i talked with a tech at guitar center while he had an explosion razorback pulled apart. the tremolos are complete crap, although im surprised deans site doesnt say "official floyd rose". i have a real floyd rose, theres a HUGE difference.
swingline
QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Feb 17 2008, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
their made by Ping in china. i talked with a tech at guitar center while he had an explosion razorback pulled apart. the tremolos are complete crap, although im surprised deans site doesnt say "official floyd rose". i have a real floyd rose, theres a HUGE difference.


I have a real FL and there is no difference.
Guitarman700
QUOTE (swingline @ Feb 17 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have a real FL and there is no difference.

Really? its made by floyd rose corporation? the chinese made ones are made of low quality metal and warp after repeated use. i know someone whose razorback's floyd rose warped and broke after 2 weeks. there is no way a chinese product will ever match an american one.
SLASH91
QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Feb 17 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
there is no way a chinese product will ever match an american one.



I do agree with that...
Guitarman700
im not trying to start a war here, im just stating my opinion. i really dont like dean. now im going to go eat some toast, feel free to flame me while im gone.
Pavel
I'll let you know how my RC7 works and plays after i get it wink.gif
SLASH91
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll let you know how my RC7 works and plays after i get it wink.gif


When are you supposed to get that, Pavel?
OrganisedConfusion
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll let you know how my RC7 works and plays after i get it wink.gif

The RC7 is a good model tongue.gif



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SLASH91
QUOTE (OrganisedConfusion @ Feb 17 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The RC7 is a good model tongue.gif



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That's pretty hillarious laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
Pavel
Oh i love those! wub.gif

But mine is a bit more expensive wink.gif tongue.gif laugh.gif


EDIT: spelling
at lights end
QUOTE (Pavel @ Feb 17 2008, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll let you know how my RC7 works and plays after i get it wink.gif


you're getting an RC7? ohmy.gif wub.gif i love those guitars! they look so cool!
ZakkWylde
Rusty signature is still not there Pavel?!
Pavel
QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ Feb 17 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Rusty signature is still not there Pavel?!


Unfortunately not! May is the next deadline they set...i hope they will keep it real. You would already know if i had it here wink.gif

@at lights end : yeah i ordered one - waiting for them to get in stores across the world.
Tjchep
Well, I'm thinking..

Birth Day's in may, so.. do you want my address? I'll pay for shipping if thats fine with you..
RIP Dime
QUOTE (Guitarman700 @ Feb 17 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Seriously, for $1,100 a razorback should be made in the U.S.A and have an original floyd rose, not some crappy tremolo arm made in china by prepubescent children shackled to chairs working for 12 cents an hour.
Edit:all those artists are playing on custom shop models. maybe dean should just cater to pros!


Or at least Japan, I'm not happy at all with Dean's Dimebag line of guitars, they are way overpriced because Dime had a huge endorsement deal with Dean right before he passed(I think it was some sort of record), and Dime's estate gets a big cut of what you pay(compared to other sig models). Dime did design the Razorback ML and Razorback V, but now Dean are making guitars that aren't even designed by Dime, and selling them in the Dimebag Darrell line of guitars. I do think they should lay off over advertising Dime, but Dime's partner of over 20 years is fine with it so I'm not going to boycott Dean just yet.

That said, I own two Deans, a TEVO(220$), and a Vendetta 4F(700$). I would recommend that any guitar player give them a try. I don't own a Dimebag line guitar, or a ML, I've only ever tried a 79 series ML(469$), and felt good for the price, but the Dean pointies are HUGE!! I would personally not buy one, but I know some bigger dudes that love the size. I think too many people focus on Deans pointy guitars, especially the Razorbacks because they are so eye catching, those Deans are meant to be huge and obnoxious so you get noticed on stage(look at the freaking headstock!).

I don't think enough attention is given to their Vendetta, EVO, Soltero, and Hardtail models, they are great guitars, and are fairly priced IMO.

Where did you play the guitars? Really the only reason I see that any guitars would break every time they are played is if they are set up poorly, or not set up at all.
KloCkWorXx
my dean sounds nice as hell and is the most comfortable of mine to play, n i dig the v neck.. and if you wanna put a real floyd rose on u just have to change the mounts.. but i dont see a diff from my real floyd to liscensed floyd
RIP Dime
QUOTE (KloCkWorXx @ Feb 18 2008, 12:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
my dean sounds nice as hell and is the most comfortable of mine to play, n i dig the v neck.. and if you wanna put a real floyd rose on u just have to change the mounts.. but i dont see a diff from my real floyd to liscensed floyd


Yea man, I have a guitar with an OFR, and Dean's LFR is just as stable as the OFR, the only difference I is the pop in arm, and my LFR's is a screw in arm.
KloCkWorXx
i prefer the screw in arm... stays where i wanna keep it... with the pop in always gotta change those brushings kinda gets annoying
Pavel
QUOTE (Tjchep @ Feb 17 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I'm thinking..Birth Day's in may, so.. do you want my address? I'll pay for shipping if thats fine with you..


You may also want to take the rest of the price on your expense?? tongue.gif laugh.gif

Goliath
I wasn't impressed with the deans I played, and I know that they set up their guitars at the Sam Ash I was playing them at. I played a razorback and a V (not a razorback V, just a V) and neither guitar really grabbed me. The neck on the V was too slow because of the thick lacquer.
DeepRoots
Havent played a dean- would love to though as some of them are rather good looking wink.gif
Guitarman700
Anyone who thinks a licensed floyd rose is as good as an American made official floyd rose needs a trip to a chinese factory.
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